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Old 30-03-2023, 05:13 PM
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Thanks. I will wait for the offer letter.

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Thanks. I will wait for the offer letter.
Do share about what they offered in the end so that everyone can know how to gauge...thanks so much!

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Is there any chance of a within ministry transfer before 2 years of service?

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Assuming u are already an emplaced staff (i.e not on contract or temp basis) , typically 2 years is the minimum before u can reasonanly request to HR for secondment to other ministry. For inter department tranfers it might be up for discussion, but again subjected to ur HOD's approval.
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Assuming u are already an emplaced staff (i.e not on contract or temp basis) , typically 2 years is the minimum before u can reasonanly request to HR for secondment to other ministry. For inter department tranfers it might be up for discussion, but again subjected to ur HOD's approval.
Thanks for advising. Yes I am emplaced but only in current role for 6 months. Would it be better to apply for other roles outside? The downside is that I will have to restart as a contract staff, and have heard of cases where people wait for 2 or 3 years to get emplaced.
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How does secondment to other ministry work? Is it always a temporary thing?
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Thanks for advising. Yes I am emplaced but only in current role for 6 months. Would it be better to apply for other roles outside? The downside is that I will have to restart as a contract staff, and have heard of cases where people wait for 2 or 3 years to get emplaced.
If u think about the intention of secondments between Ministries/Statboards or transferring between department within the Ministry, it's purpose is to allow officers to gain exposure in all aspect of the Ministry work. This trains the officer to be an all rounder, allow the officer to experience different roles, or even in another domain when seconded to other Ministry. This is what they call grooming officers to have WOG (Whole-of-Government) competencies and to improve ur domain knowledge so u will become more deployable within the entire public service.

Thus, if u have only been in ur current role for 6 month, it can be hard to justify for a transfer/secondment because your bosses will say that u have not even spent enough time in ur current role, why wanna move on?

Unless u choose to be honest, i.e to tell ur boss this current role the jobscope is not for u, its too challenging, etc whatever reason. Then maybe it can be up for discussion but then again, it indirectly displays your lack of drive and resilience. I would advise if u want to stay in the service, tahan till 1 year at least before requesting for secondment/transfer.

Otherwise, in the meantime, just hang in there while u look for a private job outside, jump when opportunity comes.
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If u think about the intention of secondments between Ministries/Statboards or transferring between department within the Ministry, it's purpose is to allow officers to gain exposure in all aspect of the Ministry work. This trains the officer to be an all rounder, allow the officer to experience different roles, or even in another domain when seconded to other Ministry. This is what they call grooming officers to have WOG (Whole-of-Government) competencies and to improve ur domain knowledge so u will become more deployable within the entire public service.

Thus, if u have only been in ur current role for 6 month, it can be hard to justify for a transfer/secondment because your bosses will say that u have not even spent enough time in ur current role, why wanna move on?

Unless u choose to be honest, i.e to tell ur boss this current role the jobscope is not for u, its too challenging, etc whatever reason. Then maybe it can be up for discussion but then again, it indirectly displays your lack of drive and resilience. I would advise if u want to stay in the service, tahan till 1 year at least before requesting for secondment/transfer.

Otherwise, in the meantime, just hang in there while u look for a private job outside, jump when opportunity comes.
when going for longer secondments like 2 years, how will the PB and merit increment work? will there still be any of those? or will your salary be stagnant throughout secondment?
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Whether seconded staff can still be considered for promotion and whether if will can stay permenantly at the new place and not returned to my originated ministry after the end of my secondment ?


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Secondment promos work only scholars.

For self-initiated, it could be hard to justify promo.
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