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18-02-2022, 02:58 PM
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Are you kidding me? I'm a program manager where I'm at now. I have a few project managers and engineers around the world reporting to me currently. That explains the staggering disparity in the pay they offered. (For better perspective: Project > program > portfolio) program managers usually require >8 years experience and good track record as PJM.
Thought about that when I started working but realised if I want to do well at where I am, I will need more than a degree. A degree is nonetheless a parameter to a bigger output. It is not the output and most certainly not the only consideration. I interview and hire people. I met some candidates who thinks the degree is the ultimate destination forgetting that he still needs to value add. You can tell when they answer you "because I have a degree" with the conventional why should I hire you sort of question. Not asking you to not take a degree, but don't treat the degree as the only key to opening doors. Overly obsessed with it that you forget to deliver. I look for integrity, good personality, perseverence, humility and hunger for knowledge. Projects cost to run and when milestones aren't met at defined timeframes, we lose money and sometimes even get into a possible lawsuit. We need to work with so many other functions and everyone has different concerns, budgeting, critical paths etc all come into the picture. In a nutshell, I got no time and money for freeloaders. You either deliver or you go, the degree isn't going to save you.
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Unfortunately, ST looks at paper qualifications before they look at you.
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18-02-2022, 03:14 PM
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Unfortunately, ST looks at paper qualifications before they look at you.
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That's why he joined MNC and not ST and judging by the posting, he made the right choice.
But seriously, who wants to join ST if you can join a MNC? Doesn't make sense unless you really CMI no choice then you go to ST. For me, if I have a choice I won't join ST too.
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A lot more. I learnt more in the first year in my current role than during my almost 5 years in ST, especially in terms of soft skills.
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What? 1 year in your current role you learn more than 5 years in ST? That bad?
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18-02-2022, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Are you kidding me? I'm a program manager where I'm at now. I have a few project managers and engineers around the world reporting to me currently. That explains the staggering disparity in the pay they offered. (For better perspective: Project > program > portfolio) program managers usually require >8 years experience and good track record as PJM.
Thought about that when I started working but realised if I want to do well at where I am, I will need more than a degree. A degree is nonetheless a parameter to a bigger output. It is not the output and most certainly not the only consideration. I interview and hire people. I met some candidates who thinks the degree is the ultimate destination forgetting that he still needs to value add. You can tell when they answer you "because I have a degree" with the conventional why should I hire you sort of question. Not asking you to not take a degree, but don't treat the degree as the only key to opening doors. Overly obsessed with it that you forget to deliver. I look for integrity, good personality, perseverence, humility and hunger for knowledge. Projects cost to run and when milestones aren't met at defined timeframes, we lose money and sometimes even get into a possible lawsuit. We need to work with so many other functions and everyone has different concerns, budgeting, critical paths etc all come into the picture. In a nutshell, I got no time and money for freeloaders. You either deliver or you go, the degree isn't going to save you.
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Heng sia you dodge a bullet by never accepting, if u accept u worse than fresh grad pay le. The hr ok not? Give u so low rank and pay for your experience?
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19-02-2022, 12:33 AM
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Some received salary review in january 2022 while others did not.
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I am one of them to receive the letter 2 weeks ago from my DIBU head personally in his office with door close.
It just a mere 3 percent increment. And July will increase again. So somewhat like promotion increment.
9 years in ST.
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19-02-2022, 12:49 AM
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Fresh grad here going to join ST Engineering soon. Seeing all these comments I sibei sian to start work with them sia... want to make me resign on my first day
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Depends which Division and department.
Can be slack first 3 months for you to settle down.
But is a good place to have kids, anytime also can go attend to kids. Just inform RO/AO.
got pantry and toliet are clean. Usually a lot go office pangsai to hide in toliet
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19-02-2022, 01:07 AM
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Fresh grad here going to join ST Engineering soon. Seeing all these comments I sibei sian to start work with them sia... want to make me resign on my first day
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If you like army life, they st is your home lo. All the people inside same de, alot of Chao keng.
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19-02-2022, 01:22 AM
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Depends which Division and department.
Can be slack first 3 months for you to settle down.
But is a good place to have kids, anytime also can go attend to kids. Just inform RO/AO.
got pantry and toliet are clean. Usually a lot go office pangsai to hide in toliet
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Nice, then can plan my next job during those 3 months
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