Really that bad for engineers?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How much programming do i need to become data scientist?

Just learn pythin matlab and R

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Work as a chemical engineer in a oil and gas refinery.
- was offered 64.5k PA,1 year before I graduated (was previously an intern and got return offer at the end of internship)
- got readjusted to 67.7k right before I start work
- half year into the job , annual pay increased to 72k per annum
- did not receive pay increment in my 2nd year due to pandemic
- my senior with 4 years of experience are getting 90k per annum

Would not encourage people to join oil and gas industry even though pay is relatively good. Can’t get out if you work too long in the company and oil and gas industry is definitely not sustainable

“Cant get out” isn’t dealt a problem if the pay is relatively good and people are happy staying there.

Why do you feel that the industry is not sustainable?

What happened to the trust me, I’m an engineer trend which was so popular a few years ago

I thought engineers were highly respected and well paid.

Or have times changed?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What happened to the trust me, I’m an engineer trend which was so popular a few years ago

I thought engineers were highly respected and well paid.

Or have times changed?

Not sure if that "trend" was meant to be taken seriously to begin with, or just a meme..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What happened to the trust me, I’m an engineer trend which was so popular a few years ago

I thought engineers were highly respected and well paid.

Or have times changed?

They are highly respected but sadly not well paid lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What happened to the trust me, I’m an engineer trend which was so popular a few years ago

I thought engineers were highly respected and well paid.

Or have times changed?

This meme was from the States, where they are still well regarded and earn decently

Originally Posted by Unregistered

“Cant get out” isn’t dealt a problem if the pay is relatively good and people are happy staying there.

Why do you feel that the industry is not sustainable?

-environmentally
s://.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/ipcc-report-indicates-singapore-could-take-bigger-hits-from-climate-change

- economically
There will be reduced demand for refined product like motor gasoline with increasing popularity of EV. Taxi companies are aiming to replace all their fleet with EV within next 5 years. There is an oversupply of chemical feedstock in the market where output of just one manufacturing site in another country outstrip the entire manufacturing output of our country. The technology employed in Singapore are relatively old, given that we started building our refinery industries back in the 80/90s, which means we are less energy efficient and utility is a huge operating cost in this industry. The only product that is likely to retain its demand is aviation fuel and perhaps lubricants

“Can’t get out” is going to be a huge problem if Singapore decide to pivot away from refining (e.g. EDB reduce tax subsidies) so the refinery industries decide to move to cheaper sites like Malaysia or India. supervisors/managers with 10-20years of experience will be screwed because no company is willing to pay 150k a year. Engineers or those on technical route might have it better but they will have to take a pay cut

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This meme was from the States, where they are still well regarded and earn decently

Do the states recognise our local engineering qualifications? are there better career opportunities for our graduates abroad?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do the states recognise our local engineering qualifications? are there better career opportunities for our graduates abroad?

It’s easier to work in a MNC in Singapore, get posted overseas and find a new job there before you get called back to SG