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06-10-2013, 02:31 PM
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lifee from.30 may change dramatically. kids come along, you are at your peak at work and investment. ..30is a good Start,
when i was at 30,i was single, high spender with much much less than most of you.
now at 40,married with Kid, staying in a HDB, driving company car, Cash and stocks $1.2million .
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As long as you are not staying in a condo, you are not deemed as successful here. Sad but true. You can sell your hdb flat now and upgrade to a condo since you now have $1.2m of spare cash.
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07-10-2013, 02:38 AM
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As long as you are not staying in a condo, you are not deemed as successful here. Sad but true. You can sell your hdb flat now and upgrade to a condo since you now have $1.2m of spare cash.
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but i beg to differ. ..why doi need others to gauge if i am successful? i am happy of my achievement and so are my Blissful happy family.
Cash is for me to invest and Snow ball VIA stocks and property investment, HDB IS MY 山寨SHAN ZHAI
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07-10-2013, 10:47 AM
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but i beg to differ. ..why doi need others to gauge if i am successful? i am happy of my achievement and so are my Blissful happy family.
Cash is for me to invest and Snow ball VIA stocks and property investment, HDB IS MY 山寨SHAN ZHAI
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Agree. Anyway, success is relative and is probably a misguided goal to pursue in life.
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07-10-2013, 04:46 PM
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the definition of this thread is too narrow......as in success is defined by net worth ($$) and other stuff are not considered..
what if an artiste is very successful and recognised even though he is not paid millions for his artwork? A street performer? A hawker that has operated for the past 20 years with a steady stream of customers everyday. Must he become a franchise owner and millionaire in order to be considered and deemed as successful?
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07-10-2013, 06:58 PM
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the definition of this thread is too narrow......as in success is defined by net worth ($$) and other stuff are not considered..
what if an artiste is very successful and recognised even though he is not paid millions for his artwork? A street performer? A hawker that has operated for the past 20 years with a steady stream of customers everyday. Must he become a franchise owner and millionaire in order to be considered and deemed as successful?
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The true success is your success in the hereafter.
Do a YouTube search on "Angel of Death" and "Jannah".
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07-10-2013, 08:52 PM
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This thread is just fine. It specifically and narrowly asked what net worth should a 30 yr old be expected to have. It did not ask about success. It was the other posters who tried to link net worth to success, which I thought was inappropriate to measure for a 30 yr old.
So let's just stick to net worth.
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the definition of this thread is too narrow......as in success is defined by net worth ($$) and other stuff are not considered..
what if an artiste is very successful and recognised even though he is not paid millions for his artwork? A street performer? A hawker that has operated for the past 20 years with a steady stream of customers everyday. Must he become a franchise owner and millionaire in order to be considered and deemed as successful?
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11-10-2013, 04:34 PM
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i have a good analogy....
I am sure many will deemed saddam hussein a sucessful leader when he was at his peak of his power (note: Successful leader doesn't mean a good leader). And yet, Saddam Hussein's life as whole? Regardless of where you stand in the Iraq war, Saddam Hussein is a failure of doing what he is supposed to be doing (whatever that is) as US invaded Iraq and he is captured and sentenced by the UN. I'm sure when Saddam is at his peak in the 90s, he felt invincible and never expected his fate to be such an end. And the conclusion of Saddam Hussein's life is that he is a failed dictator.
So for those who think 'they have made it' and is successful when at age 30. Think further. It's not how much you possessed and achieved now and 10 years from now. Success is defined by your entire life. I will much prefer to have a successful life as a whole than a successful adult life (and I'm sure you will agree that both are not necessary relative).
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11-10-2013, 07:31 PM
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Success a relative concept. A successful father for instance is one who provides for his family just sufficiently and also builds the character of his children to be of a good character. A father who earns a lot but neglect his family until his children become scoundrels is a big failure. He raised children of weak character and loose morals.
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i have a good analogy....
I am sure many will deemed saddam hussein a sucessful leader when he was at his peak of his power (note: Successful leader doesn't mean a good leader). And yet, Saddam Hussein's life as whole? Regardless of where you stand in the Iraq war, Saddam Hussein is a failure of doing what he is supposed to be doing (whatever that is) as US invaded Iraq and he is captured and sentenced by the UN. I'm sure when Saddam is at his peak in the 90s, he felt invincible and never expected his fate to be such an end. And the conclusion of Saddam Hussein's life is that he is a failed dictator.
So for those who think 'they have made it' and is successful when at age 30. Think further. It's not how much you possessed and achieved now and 10 years from now. Success is defined by your entire life. I will much prefer to have a successful life as a whole than a successful adult life (and I'm sure you will agree that both are not necessary relative).
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12-10-2013, 04:05 AM
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i would not put saddam as a failed dictator, even if that's what western press would like to keep saying. He brought stability to a country of political and religious strive in the 70s, 80s. It is 2013 now, and who would say (an impartial, not a sunni or shite or arab) that Iraq is today better than what it would have been if Saddam remained? Saddam didn't even have WMDs.
But I agree success is a personal thing. For me, changing the world for the better, even for a short space of time in history, is success enough.
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Originally Posted by lordlad
i have a good analogy....
I am sure many will deemed saddam hussein a sucessful leader when he was at his peak of his power (note: Successful leader doesn't mean a good leader). And yet, Saddam Hussein's life as whole? Regardless of where you stand in the Iraq war, Saddam Hussein is a failure of doing what he is supposed to be doing (whatever that is) as US invaded Iraq and he is captured and sentenced by the UN. I'm sure when Saddam is at his peak in the 90s, he felt invincible and never expected his fate to be such an end. And the conclusion of Saddam Hussein's life is that he is a failed dictator.
So for those who think 'they have made it' and is successful when at age 30. Think further. It's not how much you possessed and achieved now and 10 years from now. Success is defined by your entire life. I will much prefer to have a successful life as a whole than a successful adult life (and I'm sure you will agree that both are not necessary relative).
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12-10-2013, 04:30 AM
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That's too Simplistic. A father can spend lots of time with his kids and they are of weak character and loose morals too. Anyway, I dont think any doting father or mother thinks their kids have weak character and loose morals. Most of these type of fathers point at other kids or other fathers chastising them.
Further, it is none of your business to judge or care about how others behave as fathers, nor how their kids grow up into.
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Success a relative concept. A successful father for instance is one who provides for his family just sufficiently and also builds the character of his children to be of a good character. A father who earns a lot but neglect his family until his children become scoundrels is a big failure. He raised children of weak character and loose morals.
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