How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What do medical doctors think about whether or not we should allow COVID-19 to become endemic? There are public health projections of more deaths and ICU admissions if we allow COVID-19 to become endemic. Do we really think COVID-19 is not a dangerous disease as our politicians has stated in order to push for reopening and boost their economic KPIs to continue to justify their millions in salaries?

s://theconversation.com/why-we-must-not-allow-covid-to-become-endemic-in-new-zealand-169608

What do you want to know? As I have said before, somebody is bringing the country in the wrong direction.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What do medical doctors think about whether or not we should allow COVID-19 to become endemic? There are public health projections of more deaths and ICU admissions if we allow COVID-19 to become endemic. Do we really think COVID-19 is not a dangerous disease as our politicians has stated in order to push for reopening and boost their economic KPIs to continue to justify their millions in salaries?

s://theconversation.com/why-we-must-not-allow-covid-to-become-endemic-in-new-zealand-169608

Medical opinion is only part of the equation as with all public policies.
Which is obviously why the ultimate decision should not be made by doctors (but in consultation with doctors).
Obviously as doctors we want zero deaths and preservation of ICU capacity all costs.
But as a society there is much more to consider than just preserving lives at all costs versus the overall social impact on society, and the various other downstream repercussions such as mental health, socioeconomic consequences etc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Medical opinion is only part of the equation as with all public policies.
Which is obviously why the ultimate decision should not be made by doctors (but in consultation with doctors).
Obviously as doctors we want zero deaths and preservation of ICU capacity all costs.
But as a society there is much more to consider than just preserving lives at all costs versus the overall social impact on society, and the various other downstream repercussions such as mental health, socioeconomic consequences etc.

yes dont focus on the trees and loose sight of the forest

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yes dont focus on the trees and loose sight of the forest

Correct.

We can have zero covid but that will mean poverty for singapore.

Deaths are inevitable.
Honestly quite a number of covid deaths would have died soon even without covid.
So i think we are definitely on the right track to bring it to endemic

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What do you want to know? As I have said before, somebody is bringing the country in the wrong direction.

Obsession with "vaccines" is the wrong direction.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Obsession with "vaccines" is the wrong direction.

Why not?
Vaccines makes disease mild.

Less death. Less severe illness.

Even sinovac better than nothing

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Obsession with "vaccines" is the wrong direction.

Idk who you are but you better have something intelligent to say after making a statement like this.
If not you should ship your ass to a country which is relatively covid naive and with low vaccination take up rate (not many left, they’ve already paid a high price), and pray very hard you don’t die.

Singaporeans love to whine.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
We should ship all the anti-vaxxers to Ubin
No ICU care needed since you don’t believe in science.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Idk who you are but you better have something intelligent to say after making a statement like this.
If not you should ship your ass to a country which is relatively covid naive and with low vaccination take up rate (not many left, they’ve already paid a high price), and pray very hard you don’t die.

Singaporeans love to whine.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
We should ship all the anti-vaxxers to Ubin
No ICU care needed since you don’t believe in science.

I am fully vaccinated and believe in vaccines
However one of my concerns is that the issue of vaccine can divide our nation (i.e vaccinated people will start hating those anti vaxxers and vice versa), something that a country like Singapore can Ill afford.

Let's also not forget that as doctors, we cannot choose our patients. (E.g if a renal failure pt insist on drinking 5L of water everyday and visit the hospital every other day, we have to see. Similarly if an unvaccinated (by choice) pt decide to visit ktv and get covid pneumonia, we also have to see... Sadly)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am fully vaccinated and believe in vaccines
However one of my concerns is that the issue of vaccine can divide our nation (i.e vaccinated people will start hating those anti vaxxers and vice versa), something that a country like Singapore can Ill afford.

Let's also not forget that as doctors, we cannot choose our patients. (E.g if a renal failure pt insist on drinking 5L of water everyday and visit the hospital every other day, we have to see. Similarly if an unvaccinated (by choice) pt decide to visit ktv and get covid pneumonia, we also have to see... Sadly)

I scold my renal patients if they drink 5L of water.
Vaccination should be mandated. We are being soft here.
While we cannot choose our patients, we can subject them to inconvenience

For example, if u opt out hota and u need organ transplant, u will rank last.
Similarly if unvaccinated, and if u need icu, should rank last too.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am fully vaccinated and believe in vaccines
However one of my concerns is that the issue of vaccine can divide our nation (i.e vaccinated people will start hating those anti vaxxers and vice versa), something that a country like Singapore can Ill afford.

Let's also not forget that as doctors, we cannot choose our patients. (E.g if a renal failure pt insist on drinking 5L of water everyday and visit the hospital every other day, we have to see. Similarly if an unvaccinated (by choice) pt decide to visit ktv and get covid pneumonia, we also have to see... Sadly)

Well, if the government releases all the unvaccinated and give them unrestricted access to public areas, and they start dropping like flies and clogging up the ICUs, then they will really be hated by the vaxxed.
Now we are just tolerating them, and to some extent even empathizing with them.