Civil Service Pay - Director level

I'm curious, is there anyone here who is a non-scholar or happens to know a non-scholar, and this non-scholar has over the course of several years climbed from a fresh graduate position to a DD or D in a stat board/ministry? It would be really interesting to know what the climb was like...especially in terms of the number of years it took for this non-scholar to climb up there.

Originally Posted by Incognito

I'm curious, is there anyone here who is a non-scholar or happens to know a non-scholar, and this non-scholar has over the course of several years climbed from a fresh graduate position to a DD or D in a stat board/ministry? It would be really interesting to know what the climb was like...especially in terms of the number of years it took for this non-scholar to climb up there.

I know of one guy who climbed to DD in 7 years, which is relatively fast in that stat board. He is a non-scholar.

[Incognito]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I know of one guy who climbed to DD in 7 years, which is relatively fast in that stat board. He is a non-scholar.

Thanks for that info! Would you be able to share a few more details? Such as, what was it that enabled him to climb that quickly?

Assuming he joined as a Manager, then his progression would have been: Manager--> Senior Manager --> Assistant Director --> Deputy Director

That's 3 promotions in 7 years, which is rather fast considering it is a government agency. This guy that you know must be quite steady then!

Originally Posted by Incognito

Thanks for that info! Would you be able to share a few more details? Such as, what was it that enabled him to climb that quickly?

Assuming he joined as a Manager, then his progression would have been: Manager--> Senior Manager --> Assistant Director --> Deputy Director

That's 3 promotions in 7 years, which is rather fast considering it is a government agency. This guy that you know must be quite steady then!

A lot of stat board fresh grad is AD already so you only need 2 promotion to reach D.

Hi,

A few queries please:
1. How senior is an Assistant Director in Monetary Authority of Singapore?
2. What kind of pay one can expect in that role in MAS?
3. Do they hire foreigners( I am a US citizen looking to relocate to Singapore.)

Thanks in anticipation!

Regards

Conrad

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

A few queries please:
1. How senior is an Assistant Director in Monetary Authority of Singapore?
2. What kind of pay one can expect in that role in MAS?
3. Do they hire foreigners( I am a US citizen looking to relocate to Singapore.)

Thanks in anticipation!

Regards

Conrad

Assistant Director roughly equal in rank to Assistant Manager in big MNC, MAS hires a small no. of foreginers but not at this junior level.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

A few queries please:
1. How senior is an Assistant Director in Monetary Authority of Singapore?
2. What kind of pay one can expect in that role in MAS?
3. Do they hire foreigners( I am a US citizen looking to relocate to Singapore.)

Thanks in anticipation!

Regards

Conrad

stay in US. thanks.

Originally Posted by Incognito

I'm curious, is there anyone here who is a non-scholar or happens to know a non-scholar, and this non-scholar has over the course of several years climbed from a fresh graduate position to a DD or D in a stat board/ministry? It would be really interesting to know what the climb was like...especially in terms of the number of years it took for this non-scholar to climb up there.

I know one who took about 15 years to become Director.
Route taken:
NUS, 2nd Upper.
5 years in civil service (promoted twice).
1 year out (quit and went overseas).
3.5 years back in (promoted twice).
5 years out in private sector.
Back in as Director.

Is it true that when a 2nd upper or first class honors fresh graduate (non-scholar) join the civil service or stat board, they are already pre-destined to be on the management track, i.e. groomed to be future management in the organisation? As compared to their peers who are less academically inclined who probably (pardon me i'm not sure) takes a longer time to reach management roles in the civil service or stat board.

Not necessarily true. He/she only gets a higher starting pay, and would probably, at that stage, have a higher CEP, but not automatically fast tracked.
In the bigger scheme of things, he/she is nobody compared to the overseas scholars.