Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

has hiring for corporate resumed, anyone knows of 0PQE openings? thanks

Not many; most firms are hunkering down and trying to maintain their current ranks

Honestly, if you are a NQ and didn't get retained for corp, consider branching out and applying for liti roles. Good corp opps are far and few between.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

S tier US/UK: Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Oxford/Cambridge

A tier US: Columbia/Chicago/New York

Local tier: NUS/SMU

A tier UK: LSE/UCL/KCL

B tier UK/S tier AU: Durham/Bristol/Nottingham/Warwick/QMUL/Birmingham/Melbourne/Sydney/UNSW/ANU

A tier AU: Monash/Queensland/Western Australia/Adelaide

NZ/B tier AU: Auckland/Wellington/Tasmania

C tier AU: Murdoch/Flinders

Nice try pulling the wool over our eyes, KCL grad!

Which corporate areas are recession proof?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

S tier US/UK: Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Oxford/Cambridge

A tier US: Columbia/Chicago/New York

Local tier: NUS/SMU

A tier UK: LSE/UCL/KCL

B tier UK/S tier AU: Durham/Bristol/Nottingham/Warwick/QMUL/Birmingham/Melbourne/Sydney/UNSW/ANU

A tier AU: Monash/Queensland/Western Australia/Adelaide

NZ/B tier AU: Auckland/Wellington/Tasmania

C tier AU: Murdoch/Flinders

Hmm, just considering JD programs, I'm not sure why some US schools are this list given that they're not in the list of approved universities (e.g. Yale, Stanford). Granted, these are good schools, but their JDs are not accepted here.

It's a different story if you're considering the LLM programs from these US schools. But then again, it's easier to get into an LLM program so judging someone's ability from their LLM institute is not entirely fair or accurate.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hmm, just considering JD programs, I'm not sure why some US schools are this list given that they're not in the list of approved universities (e.g. Yale, Stanford). Granted, these are good schools, but their JDs are not accepted here.

It's a different story if you're considering the LLM programs from these US schools. But then again, it's easier to get into an LLM program so judging someone's ability from their LLM institute is not entirely fair or accurate.

Yale and Stanford are automatic exemptions if you do apply. Yale has always been the top law school in America, with Stanford/Harvard fighting over rank 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

S tier US/UK: Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Oxford/Cambridge

A tier US: Columbia/Chicago/New York

Local tier: NUS/SMU

A tier UK: LSE/UCL/KCL

B tier UK/S tier AU: Durham/Bristol/Nottingham/Warwick/QMUL/Birmingham/Melbourne/Sydney/UNSW/ANU

A tier AU: Monash/Queensland/Western Australia/Adelaide

NZ/B tier AU: Auckland/Wellington/Tasmania

C tier AU: Murdoch/Flinders

Are the UK degrees (outside of Oxbridge) even worth anything rn? Especially with the rise of nationalism as seen from brexit and the racial violence from covid... Won't Singapore born graduates of these prestigious universities just be delegated to third or second class status? Seems like going overseas is also no guarantee of a better life abroad...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yale and Stanford are automatic exemptions if you do apply. Yale has always been the top law school in America, with Stanford/Harvard fighting over rank 2 and 3.

Outside of rankings Harvard Law has always been considered n.o. 1 by those in the US industry. Just look at their number of supreme court clerkships.

I'm really baffled at why you guys keep discussing this US/UK JD/LLM ranking thing so much ....

As a lawyer who studied locally who lateraled into a US firm, I can honestly say that none of my colleagues who also went to NUS/SMU for their undergrad have a masters (or even if they do, they did it during their 4 year LLB at NUS). It is unnecessary for practice, as evidenced by the fact that they managed to make it here regardless.

Furthermore, do you all really think that anyone who is good enough to get into a JD program at harvard or yale will bother coming to SG anyway?

Can you guys focus the discussion on what actually relates to us -> salaries in the SG law context?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm really baffled at why you guys keep discussing this US/UK JD/LLM ranking thing so much ....

As a lawyer who studied locally who lateraled into a US firm, I can honestly say that none of my colleagues who also went to NUS/SMU for their undergrad have a masters (or even if they do, they did it during their 4 year LLB at NUS). It is unnecessary for practice, as evidenced by the fact that they managed to make it here regardless.

Furthermore, do you all really think that anyone who is good enough to get into a JD program at harvard or yale will bother coming to SG anyway?

Can you guys focus the discussion on what actually relates to us -> salaries in the SG law context?

This. If I have a Yale/Stanford JD why would I be looking at practicing in Singapore lol.