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Old 18-03-2024, 09:37 AM
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this is a CEP thing la. most VP if not smart enugh.
overseas scholars diff - sky is the limit. there DGE or head stat boards etc. eg former dy dge heads ite . but these ppl are Ps early.
better Ps are also rotated as supts and Ds at hq .
but poster of the qn shouid know he or she unlikely to be P if hv to ask such qns in forum. likely they know before the start teaching the answer the qn



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Old 18-03-2024, 12:40 PM
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May I ask what is the end game for high performing teachers?

Do they become principals? Or join the Ministry?
If you are proficient in leading teams and have good people skills, then you might take up leadership track and progress along it. Depends on how lateral your skillsets are, you might end up crossing ministries, becoming director in HQ branch/division or take up school leadership as a VP/P/Supt.

If you are very proficient in the curriculum or pedagogy, then you can also become a lead teacher or lead specialist.



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I'm really not looking forward tomorrow. I feel at the rate I'm working I'm burning out. I'm basically managing a GEO 5 workload. I still have 3 years bond to clear. I can't imagine how some teachers could stay 20-35 over years in the service.

I'm considering to switch to other civil servant job or ministries. Don't even know if this is possible.

I want to do this for the sake of my health, mental wellbeing and my family.

Teaching job is no longer meaningful with all the superficial colleagues, kps and of course ranking.

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Say no to everything. Survive until next holiday. Rinse n repeat until 3 years.

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I'm really not looking forward tomorrow. I feel at the rate I'm working I'm burning out. I'm basically managing a GEO 5 workload. I still have 3 years bond to clear. I can't imagine how some teachers could stay 20-35 over years in the service.

I'm considering to switch to other civil servant job or ministries. Don't even know if this is possible.

I want to do this for the sake of my health, mental wellbeing and my family.

Teaching job is no longer meaningful with all the superficial colleagues, kps and of course ranking.

Haiz
Superficial colleagues, kpis and ranking aren't an MOE specific issue. Wherever ministry you go you will face the same thing


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Pointing out as well that when the new appraisal system was introduced, nobody expected that it is going to be Robin Hood system of taking from one and giving to another. Most assume MOE will not introduce negative grades such as D and expect someone to take that up. There are many such instances as well where HR took the feedback and unintended consequences came about? Remember how the epms became a laundry list? How pri Sch teachers thought by voicing out that sec Sch colleagues ended the term earlier and they would too benefit from it? Turn out MOE actually made the sec school teachers stay till week 10 instead. So what I am saying is while no system is perfect, the interpretation really makes life ironically harder than what was hoped for.
So teachers should be able to get away with substandard performance? Civil servant gonna civil servant. No wonder the civil service has a rep for being lazy
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If you are proficient in leading teams and have good people skills, then you might take up leadership track and progress along it. Depends on how lateral your skillsets are, you might end up crossing ministries, becoming director in HQ branch/division or take up school leadership as a VP/P/Supt.

If you are very proficient in the curriculum or pedagogy, then you can also become a lead teacher or lead specialist.
Those who can't do, teach.

Those who can't teach, become specialist.
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The real question is… who got informed of their promotion already?
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The real question is… who got informed of their promotion already?
I also want to know.
Still waiting…
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Old 18-03-2024, 05:49 PM
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Those who can't do, teach.

Those who can't teach, become specialist.
Wah so mean. But it’s quite true. I got so sick of engineering that I left to become a teacher years ago. But it’s not because I can’t do. I don’t like what engineering roles offer. I could’ve transitioned to sales, but that’s not for me either. And I can say I wasn’t that bad an engineer. Just don’t like the lifestyle and role.
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Wow. Just reading all the past recent postings, I can't imagine how are the people behind are actual teachers or not. I must say you guys are quite heartless to others. Ironically, teachers! 😂
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