Career as Teacher

Hi, does anyone know the type of leave that an EO can take to take care of a parent who is seriously sickm Besides unpaid leave, can I use any paid leave first before applying for UL? Thank you.

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Hi, does anyone know the type of leave that an EO can take to take care of a parent who is seriously sickm Besides unpaid leave, can I use any paid leave first before applying for UL? Thank you.

There's 2 days of Parent-Care Leave you should definitely try to utilise first.

Sounds like you'll need more days, though… I understand there's Urgent Private Affairs (UPA) Leave, but don't really know how that works. Maybe someone else here (…or your RO?) would be able to better advise?

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I'm not a KP but I think the pay gap between management and non-management is too small. It's not enough to justify all the extra rubbish that KPs are expected to do on top of being model teachers.

Not advocating for a massive pay gap, but if the pay gap is narrowed instead of being widened slightly, it disincentivises outstanding teachers to aspire to climb the ladder and serve in higher capacities.

I don’t think KPs will mind if the pay gap is narrowed. Aren’t they in this role because of their passion? Lol

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I don’t think KPs will mind if the pay gap is narrowed. Aren’t they in this role because of their passion? Lol

Agreed! Plus most of our schools KPs are very capable and competent. So even if the pay increase is too small, they can easily cross over to private sector or other ministries who'll be embracing them with arms wide open. Everyone knows how hard working school KPs are, so they shouldnt have a problem moving on to other careers/deployment outside of MOE. But of course, because of their strong passion, these KPs choose to remain in MOE/schools despite of better employability prospects. Noble hor. *coughs* *wipes nose bleed*

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Aren’t they in this role because of their passion? Lol

I love how you think. It will ensure that our middle management landscape will continue to be dominated by status-quo-worshipping yes-men with mediocre ability and zero prospects in the private sector. Bright future ahead for the education service indeed.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, does anyone know the type of leave that an EO can take to take care of a parent who is seriously sickm Besides unpaid leave, can I use any paid leave first before applying for UL? Thank you.

Use parent care leave followed by urgent private affairs leave if you need full days away from work.

On certain days when your timetable allows, you can try asking for (unrecorded/unofficial) time off to leave a bit earlier or report a bit later so that you can spend time looking after your parent.

As a last resort, ask for unpaid leave. Best wishes to your family.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I love how you think. It will ensure that our middle management landscape will continue to be dominated by status-quo-worshipping yes-men with mediocre ability and zero prospects in the private sector. Bright future ahead for the education service indeed.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

paying handsomely to attract talent is the same narrative put forth by the men in white. it has not proven to be true. on the contrary, such approach only perpetuates echo chamber syndrome.

you want real, bright future? take a leaf from the old guards. make an effort to genuinely understand the ground sentiments and take bold steps.

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paying handsomely to attract talent is the same narrative put forth by the men in white. it has not proven to be true. on the contrary, such approach only perpetuates echo chamber syndrome.

you want real, bright future? take a leaf from the old guards. make an effort to genuinely understand the ground sentiments and take bold steps.

Wrong analogy. We're comparing middle management jobs here, of which there are equivalents in the public and the private sectors. The MIW narrative that you are referring to has no equivalent. What do you compare a ministerial portfolio with? A C-suite position? That's like trying to land a Mars Rover on Uranus.

Agree with the management philosophy of going closer to the ground. But any Tom, Dick or Harry can put on a show and literally walk the ground often, asking his secretary to take down everyone's complaints. But whether it translates into real change requires managerial talent, not just showmanship. And again, talent isn't cheap. You want the cream of the crop in management & policymaking talent, or any other specific kind of talent at all, you cough up the $$$$$. Simple.

Moe all bunch of monkeys

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Moe all bunch of monkeys

Is that why you are not from moe? Cos u don’t even fit to be a monkey. Maybe a donkey..wahahhaha