SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Many of the local grad are just jealous cauz they loose out to pte grads. i graduate from sim last year now making nearly 6k as a fund analyst in boutique company. Network & eq more important than book smart.

are u from bank map? sim got a study that say average starting pay is 3.5k, almost same as smu.

i know many pte uni deg holders who defeat the local uni & ivy league to get into management program with the big banks & mnc...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

are u from bank map? sim got a study that say average starting pay is 3.5k, almost same as smu.

i know many pte uni deg holders who defeat the local uni & ivy league to get into management program with the big banks & mnc...

hahahaha, sim's study states that the average starting pay is 2.5k, less by 1k or more.

management programs with big banks got 0 SIM guys. MNC might have a couple, but those are really the exceptions.

Unless of course, you count those bansurance/private bank/operations "management programs" and your MNCs are those Certis Cisco.

As can already be seen in previous threads, SIM students cannot really differentiate between real programs and real big companies.

The boutique company guy earning 6k is probably from Manulife, "analysing" mutual funds and earning lots of commissions from his family and relatives.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

are u from bank map? sim got a study that say average starting pay is 3.5k, almost same as smu.

i know many pte uni deg holders who defeat the local uni & ivy league to get into management program with the big banks & mnc...

Mine is a boutique private equity fund co. I know of many private deg grads who are making >10k after a few years. The funny thing is these local uni losers keep going to MAP from the big banks & MNC that pay them peanuts in the end. May private grads are able to find jobs in small companies that because they cannot get the exam smart people end up paying top dollar for private deg holders.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Mine is a boutique private equity fund co. I know of many private deg grads who are making >10k after a few years. The funny thing is these local uni losers keep going to MAP from the big banks & MNC that pay them peanuts in the end. May private grads are able to find jobs in small companies that because they cannot get the exam smart people end up paying top dollar for private deg holders.

That last sentence... wow the logic, or complete lack thereof.

I can't even...

vp for compliance in a global bank making 350k now. graduate from rmit 10 yrs ago.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

are u from bank map? sim got a study that say average starting pay is 3.5k, almost same as smu.

i know many pte uni deg holders who defeat the local uni & ivy league to get into management program with the big banks & mnc...

FACT - bank HRs do not count SIM as a degree - all SIM applications are dumped when they receive SIM CVs for the MAPs. not even the back office roles - ops/hr/it/finance, do they take in SIM.

its usually called a GRADUATE programme for a reason - only for real GRADUATES with PROPER certs from a PROPER ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY.

taking a paper from sim is no difference than going to the toilet, taking a piece of toilet paper, and writing your name on it with that says - 2:1 Upper from UOL/RMIT/etc. - worthless

i learn more from facebook than going to SIM.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

FACT - bank HRs do not count SIM as a degree - all SIM applications are dumped when they receive SIM CVs for the MAPs. not even the back office roles - ops/hr/it/finance, do they take in SIM.

its usually called a GRADUATE programme for a reason - only for real GRADUATES with PROPER certs from a PROPER ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY.

taking a paper from sim is no difference than going to the toilet, taking a piece of toilet paper, and writing your name on it with that says - 2:1 Upper from UOL/RMIT/etc. - worthless

i learn more from facebook than going to SIM.

many sim grads are doing better in hedge fund mgt side, some are making much more than a bank ma after few years. anyway bank map are overhype with overwork underpay concept.

Hi, can I get some advice on applying for processing or claims exec roles in insurance?

Is it a good career choice?

Since insurance don have AWS, what is a reasonable salary range I can expect or request?

How is the variable bonus like?


Thx in advance

The problem with SIM defenders here is all you hear are generic unverifiable stories of "many" SIMs who supposedly make it big as an employee. Once you ask for specific details like who and where these "top" SIM grads are, suddenly there is nothing but complete silence.

The only half-@ss attempt was by the joker earlier who couldn't even tell the difference between proper MNC and a UK SME bought over by SATS, a mid sized local company. Otherwise its all that nonsense about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckeberg again.

Seriously, just show us a few linkedin CVs of SIM who are in a banking or MNC management program, some investment banking or hedge fund FO, MBB consultancies or at least a top management level position in a local blue chip company. Since there are "many" it shouldn't be that hard to give us 4-5 examples.

The only point I am willing to concede that SIM grads could do as well as others in general is in sales commissioned jobs such as insurance, MLM, property agents, RM, recruiters etc, but I think everyone already knows that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

FACT - bank HRs do not count SIM as a degree - all SIM applications are dumped when they receive SIM CVs for the MAPs. not even the back office roles - ops/hr/it/finance, do they take in SIM.

its usually called a GRADUATE programme for a reason - only for real GRADUATES with PROPER certs from a PROPER ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY.

taking a paper from sim is no difference than going to the toilet, taking a piece of toilet paper, and writing your name on it with that says - 2:1 Upper from UOL/RMIT/etc. - worthless

i learn more from facebook than going to SIM.

LMAO get you facts right, THERE are SIM graduates in JP MORGAN GRADUATE PROGRAM.