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Old 02-08-2011, 11:18 AM
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As time goes on I discover more and more stuff I don't like here, like staff who have been here 9-12 years without any promotion at all. For me it's 5 years where I'm at with no promotion, making it 8 years total in MX12 grade.

Seems like in order to be promoted, you not only need continual 'good' appraisals (there seems to be no arbitrary grade assignment stated), but there also needs to be a vacancy in the higher position for you.

So how is this higher position created? Does it mean promotions can only occur when someone higher quits?

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Promotion depends on performance and potential. Someone with a higher potential will be promoted faster than another with a lower potential, ceteris paribus. In some organisations, there must also be a vacancy at that higher level. I believe that promotions to MX11 is almost guaranteed; a matter of time.

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Not sure if this will help you.. my friend who's in civil service started off at grade 14 as per all fresh grads and made it to 11 in 6 years... although he's a scholar and i saw the first 2-3 years was damn siong for him.. work until 11pm for long periods.. those that made grade 11 with him are all scholars... so there are peers who are non-scholars get stuck in grade 12... usually non-scholars CEP is lower so their promotion rate is slower.. from what i know.. a deputy director in a ministry is grade 9... so there's actually not much room to climb in terms of grade...but the salary range is wide...so there's plenty of room for annual increments... the good thing for scholars is that they get rotated around and hold other titles or appointments which may not involve promotion in grade so their career seems to be "moving".. non scholars do not get such opportunities so it would seem like you are stuck in a dead-end job etc..

that said.. the general promotion criteria involves duration in a grade.. whether or not you've hit salary range ceiling as well as past and current performance grade.. there's a minimum you have to accumulate over the years plus in the current year if you are to be promoted.. you cannot have a grading lower than the threshold that your ministry sets... maybe C+ or B- I dunno.. i think its highly likely that you may have tio-ed a poor grade which has severely affected your promotion chances.. your bosses likely see no need to push/fight for you.. normally a lot of paper work has to be put in to "fire" someone so normally what happens is they wait for the guy to leave on his own...

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what is grade 14? I started at MX13 right after school.
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no wonder... my boss is the sort who will never fight for his staff. Even during daily work, when I bring up any issue that needs him to make a decision, he will just keep quiet and hope the problem goes away by itself if he doesn't do anything. With this kind of attitude it's no wonder no one in my branch has been promoted for years; he's just not fighting for them.
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Miwashi, you are at MX12 lower or upper region? Does the scale below match your pay scale?

From Civil Service Pay Scale in Singapore | Salary in Singapore | SG Salary Guide to Pay, Income and Jobs :
2011 Civil Service Salary Range

Job grade: MX9 (Superscale)
Job title: Deputy Director, Director
Pay scale: S$10,580 – S$14,550 / S$14,551 – S$16,540

Job grade: MX10
Job title: Assistant Director, Deputy Director
Pay scale: S$6,350 – S$9,050 / S$9,051 – S$10,400

Job grade: MX11
Job title: Manager, Assistant Director
Pay scale: S$4,100 – S$6,160 / S$6,161 – S$7,190

Job grade: MX12
Job title: Assistant Manager, Manager
Pay scale: S$2,550 – S$5,130

Job grade: MX13
Job title: Management Executive
Pay scale: up to S$2,800 for fresh graduates
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If your pay is already in the MX11 region ($4100 - 6160), got high chance to be promoted, especially if you have busted the MX12 max salary of 5130.
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Miwashi, you are at MX12 lower or upper region? Does the scale below match your pay scale?

From Civil Service Pay Scale in Singapore | Salary in Singapore | SG Salary Guide to Pay, Income and Jobs :
2011 Civil Service Salary Range

Job grade: MX9 (Superscale)
Job title: Deputy Director, Director
Pay scale: S$10,580 S$14,550 / S$14,551 S$16,540

Job grade: MX10
Job title: Assistant Director, Deputy Director
Pay scale: S$6,350 S$9,050 / S$9,051 S$10,400

Job grade: MX11
Job title: Manager, Assistant Director
Pay scale: S$4,100 S$6,160 / S$6,161 S$7,190

Job grade: MX12
Job title: Assistant Manager, Manager
Pay scale: S$2,550 S$5,130

Job grade: MX13
Job title: Management Executive
Pay scale: up to S$2,800 for fresh graduates
just curious, what are the pay scales above MX9? executive director? ceo?
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That will be the R, SR and MR scale already, not for commoner eyes:
Appendix D - Singapore Country Summary
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I'm in the 3/4 region of the MX12 scale.. will probably hit the ceiling in 1 or 2 years but not in the upcoming year at this rate. I noticed in this chart they assign a title to the grade, but I don't think that should be done as I know executives who are MX11 too.

When I started at MX13 8 years ago my starting pay was higher than the $2800 above, but the progression is not quite as good as I thought it would be.

I'm 34, so I think I'm a bit slow. Am I? My peers reached MX11 2 years ago elsewhere.
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