Part-time Electronics Engineering degree

Originally Posted by Engineer111

Well, it is very sad indeed that engineers are badly paid. I would like to share my experience with you.

I have a first class honour degree with electrical & electronics engineering from NTU. I have been working as a IC designer for 8 years and is currently at my third company.

Even with promotions and job hops, my average salary increment per year is ~3%. I was told that is the standard pay in the industry in Singapore. Not sure if that is true or not. If you are happy with that amount of pay, shoot for it.

I was very naive when I was young. I thought interest should take precedence over pay in one's career. I only realized that $$$ is indeed important (if not most important) after working for a few years and about to start a family.

Enough said, judge it yourself.

Good sharing. Tell that to those who keep harping the mantra "do what you love, and money will come naturally".

The money will come, but it's never enough.

Not all engineers are lowly paid as many put it here. Engineers work in a wide spectrum of fields - design, application, field service etc.

To TS, you just need to be in the right industry. If your interests are in Electronics Engineering and already have a Diploma in that, go for the degree. Try offshore if you do not mind being away 4 weeks in a stretch (you get 4 weeks off after your stint). Electronics Engineers in this industry working on the semis, jack ups or drillships are in great demand due to the shortage of skilled people. Pays are easily in excess of US$12K per month. Alternatively, you may want to consider working on some companies specializing in offshore equipment. There is a Norwegian company, a market leader in supplying the DPS system (Digital Position System) for offshore vessels and rigs. Even service engineers who are shore based (but have to travel offshore to work on these system) are paid well.

All is not lost as an engineer. If you do get into business studies and work in a nice office with nice girls, what do you do with them? Get to screw them? Fat Hope!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you do get into business studies and work in a nice office with nice girls, what do you do with them? Get to screw them? Fat Hope!!

At least got working in an office with pretty girls all around.. definitely got more chance to screw around than a engineer working on a floating oil-rig in the middle of the ocean for 4 weeks... the engineer will only get to screw his smelly sock or a used toilet roll... or even worse... take turn to screw each other's male colleague's backside.. So poor thing.. So pathetic!!! No wonder so many engineer go geylang look for chicken..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

At least got working in an office with pretty girls all around.. definitely got more chance to screw around than a engineer working on a floating oil-rig in the middle of the ocean for 4 weeks... the engineer will only get to screw his smelly sock or a used toilet roll... or even worse... take turn to screw each other's male colleague's backside.. So poor thing.. So pathetic!!! No wonder so many engineer go geylang look for chicken..

Not all men have the propensity for rear entry like you do!
Those who do have the inclination for promiscuity like you can continue to work in the office, or work in a place near Geylang. In terms of remuneration, you won't be the one having the last laugh! Moron!

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not all engineers are lowly paid as many put it here. Engineers work in a wide spectrum of fields - design, application, field service etc.

To TS, you just need to be in the right industry. If your interests are in Electronics Engineering and already have a Diploma in that, go for the degree. Try offshore if you do not mind being away 4 weeks in a stretch (you get 4 weeks off after your stint). Electronics Engineers in this industry working on the semis, jack ups or drillships are in great demand due to the shortage of skilled people. Pays are easily in excess of US$12K per month. Alternatively, you may want to consider working on some companies specializing in offshore equipment. There is a Norwegian company, a market leader in supplying the DPS system (Digital Position System) for offshore vessels and rigs. Even service engineers who are shore based (but have to travel offshore to work on these system) are paid well.

All is not lost as an engineer. If you do get into business studies and work in a nice office with nice girls, what do you do with them? Get to screw them? Fat Hope!!

thank you so much for the reply.
glad that this is a positive one! =)
ok.. i do have a dip in Electronics, Computer and Communication. and planning to got for degree. however im stuck with LOTS of dilemma. i also thought of changing/going into busniess course...

I got sponcership to study my poly, and got to bond with the force till at least 2015 and im currently 27 yrs old this yr! i was caught between full-time/part-time studies. i can only go full-time sponcership studies(subject to approval) if i convert to officer and also bond another few yrs. if i go take part-time NTU(5yrs) on my own, i can leave the force and join the sector outside at age 32. is it a little too old? Im also worried of the HIGH amount of FT(China, India..). i guess most company will hire them since their cost r lower?? can an engineer in Singapore earn much?



I hope some1 can give me some opinion/advice pls...

THANK YOU!!

Originally Posted by how

thank you so much for the reply.
glad that this is a positive one! =)
ok.. i do have a dip in Electronics, Computer and Communication. and planning to got for degree. however im stuck with LOTS of dilemma. i also thought of changing/going into busniess course...

I got sponcership to study my poly, and got to bond with the force till at least 2015 and im currently 27 yrs old this yr! i was caught between full-time/part-time studies. i can only go full-time sponcership studies(subject to approval) if i convert to officer and also bond another few yrs. if i go take part-time NTU(5yrs) on my own, i can leave the force and join the sector outside at age 32. is it a little too old? Im also worried of the HIGH amount of FT(China, India..). i guess most company will hire them since their cost r lower?? can an engineer in Singapore earn much?



I hope some1 can give me some opinion/advice pls...

THANK YOU!!

OIC, so you are a regular in the airforce (I presume). Frankly speaking, for your career options, I would advise you to sign on to them as long as possible, but best for you to proceed to convert to officer rank as opposed to you staying as a specialist.

If you are not prepare to compete with FT/FW when you ORD, then you are not prepare mentally. If you leave the force, even with a diploma or degree, you will need to adjust your expectation, becoz the experience in the force is considered zero to most employers. And question of Singaporean earn more as an engineer is irrelevant. Simply becoz you need to prove yourself worthiness before asking such questions. In outside, there is no such thing as pull rank, it is the result that counts.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In terms of remuneration, you won't be the one having the last laugh! Moron!

So you really think engineers would have the last laugh when it comes to salary?? There is no way an engineer can earn as much as the bankers working in the CBD... Dream on if you really believe that an engineer can afford the same luxury sports cars, landed properties, georgeous women like bankers?? If you really tink so, then you are the real Monron!! So Stuuuuuupiddddddd... Go and waste your life as a pathetic engineer then.. Nobody will pity you... Hope to take your taxi one day, Moron...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So you really think engineers would have the last laugh when it comes to salary?? There is no way an engineer can earn as much as the bankers working in the CBD... Dream on if you really believe that an engineer can afford the same luxury sports cars, landed properties, georgeous women like bankers?? If you really tink so, then you are the real Monron!! So Stuuuuuupiddddddd... Go and waste your life as a pathetic engineer then.. Nobody will pity you... Hope to take your taxi one day, Moron...

First of all, this isn't a thread to talk about bankers. If you think it's great, go start another thread on this and glamorise your trade. Not all bankers draw high wages, only the selected few at the very top of the hierachy do. However, it's safe to say most if not all of the people who work in offshore do earn wages many times over the national average. I have no interest in knowing what you do, how much you earn and to compare with whatever you earn.

Secondly your assumption of oil workers - that's the general term for people in this industry regardless of thier positions, like you call yourself a bonker - cannot afford landed properties and luxury cars is dead wrong. You're looking at this group of people through a dog's eye. I guess a frog like you living in your own well has absolutely no idea at all what other people do in other induestries.

Thirdly, for a supposedly well educated banker cum bonker like you, or someone claimed to be one, or for all we know you could be f**king young punk aspiring to be one, your standard of English is pathetic and you can't even spell correctly - just FYI, one of the words you used to swear has no "m" in the middle. Now go figure which one or go back to suck your mummies' nipples and grow up!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

First of all, this isn't a thread to talk about bankers. If you think it's great, go start another thread on this and glamorise your trade. Not all bankers draw high wages, only the selected few at the very top of the hierachy do. However, it's safe to say most if not all of the people who work in offshore do earn wages many times over the national average. I have no interest in knowing what you do, how much you earn and to compare with whatever you earn.

Secondly your assumption of oil workers - that's the general term for people in this industry regardless of thier positions, like you call yourself a bonker - cannot afford landed properties and luxury cars is dead wrong. You're looking at this group of people through a dog's eye. I guess a frog like you living in your own well has absolutely no idea at all what other people do in other induestries.

Thirdly, for a supposedly well educated banker cum bonker like you, or someone claimed to be one, or for all we know you could be f**king young punk aspiring to be one, your standard of English is pathetic and you can't even spell correctly - just FYI, one of the words you used to swear has no "m" in the middle. Now go figure which one or go back to suck your mummies' nipples and grow up!

Pathetic loser... You need spectacles too... Well, enough said.. You can continue in your deluded life if you so choose.. Good luck yah.. Better standby a taxi license.. You'll be needing it soon...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Pathetic loser... You need spectacles too... Well, enough said.. You can continue in your deluded life if you so choose.. Good luck yah.. Better standby a taxi license.. You'll be needing it soon...

No one here is comparing with you, in fact no one is interested in that.
You obviously have an inferiortity complex issue.
Keep the good luck to yourself, you will need it more.
Banks worldwide are cutting jobs, haven't you heard it already? Someone with your attitude would be the first one to be axed.
Taxi needs fuel, so do a banker cum bonker like you if you do drive. In case, you're still a freaking young punk which I suspect you are, the bus, the taxi, or your lau peh's car needs fuel. I'm in that industry that provide this and it's still needed till you are seven feet under or in ash form. But don't thank me, save it. It's not needed cos you need to pay for it.
I have been in this industry long enough even if I want to quit for early retirement, I can do so.
I do have a driving license and even if your worst fear does come true, I don't need to drive a taxi. I probably would relax by the pool - just like what I do in my 4 weeks off - or work part time in Mac for a stress free job. The yield from my properties are good enough to see me thru the early retirement.

Sucking the wrong tits is causing your level of intelligence to deteriorate. Go latch on your mum's and do grow up for your own sake.