Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi all, wanted to ask -

Anyone has any insights on Bird & Bird TMT?

(1) Is 2Birds pseudo international (e.g WithersKW, MLS) or actually international (e.g Baker)??? (In terms of nature of work and deal flow)

(2) How's the trainee retention rate like?

(3) any insights on firm culture and salary?

Any constructive input is appreciated. Thank you

Hearsay....
Trainee retention is bad.

No idea on the rest.

Saw that Clyde & Co is hiring NQ-2PQE Maritime lawyer for 8-11k. Can anyone confirm the figures? How’s the progression and culture there like?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Saw that Clyde & Co is hiring NQ-2PQE Maritime lawyer for 8-11k. Can anyone confirm the figures? How’s the progression and culture there like?

Thats so little. The alternative career that the state mouthpiece is pushing aka social escorting pays 10-30k easily for 0 PQE. Interesting to see how far Singapore has become, from First World to Third.

how is the hiring scene for junior pqe? any pick up in activity in corporate?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

how is the hiring scene for junior pqe? any pick up in activity in corporate?

Most firms have not changed their hiring policy since the beginning of covid/cb.
Even if activity picks up (which, to be fair, it has), it is unlikely that firms will commit to additional headcount at this time. The covid situation is still quite volatile.


This is in relation to lateral hires.

I believe most firms have tried to maintain their retention rates.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most firms have not changed their hiring policy since the beginning of covid/cb.
Even if activity picks up (which, to be fair, it has), it is unlikely that firms will commit to additional headcount at this time. The covid situation is still quite volatile.


This is in relation to lateral hires.

I believe most firms have tried to maintain their retention rates.

Yeah I wouldn't move if I didn't have a good reason to - if the situation takes a turn for the worse and the firm needs to ax people, guess who goes first?...

What are your views on WMH law? Looks fancy and partners are pretty

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What are your views on WMH law? Looks fancy and partners are pretty

You'll be in for a surprise - they do market themselves well but the truth is not so pretty.

In terms of the "pretty partners". The female MD is in a relationship with another one of the MD. Alot of the lawyers you see are consultants (i.e. never in office or part-timers) and chose to go to WMH because they are effectively retired from law, for e.g. one of the pretty partner(s) you are looking at runs a full-time swimsuit brand and barely works at the firm.

YMMV on the "fancy"-ness of the place, but there are alot less lawyers than you expect (from viewing their page). The actual number is closer to 3-4 lawyers (excluding the managing directors) as the rest are legal secretariat/paralegals or "practice trainees" who are yet to come in to the firm, they are just put there to bolster the numbers.

The esteemed lawyers forum EDMW is advocating for higher TC pay now. Please help sign the petition to support higher trainee pay in betterment of the legal industry

s://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-drink-man-woman-16/%5B-sgunitedtraineeships%5D-llb-graduates-salary-now-lowball-until-%242k-mth-%7E-6409111.html

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The esteemed lawyers forum EDMW is advocating for higher TC pay now. Please help sign the petition to support higher trainee pay in betterment of the legal industry

s://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-drink-man-woman-16/%5B-sgunitedtraineeships%5D-llb-graduates-salary-now-lowball-until-%242k-mth-%7E-6409111.html

Trainee pay has always been 2k thereabouts. What you want to petition about lol