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Old 12-06-2019, 07:52 AM
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Does anyone have the 2019's pay info for Big 4 (fresh grad)?

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I graduated from 1 of the ivy league law schools, but it is not 1 of the scheduled universities. What are my chances to get an exemption from the minister for law? Hoping to return to SG for my family.

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Alamak you all UK grads and local grads should stop arguing who is better. There are more pressing concerns, been hearing rumours that even some big firms are reducing/abolishing TCs or retention

Now it is not the time to compare who is better or not

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Alamak you all UK grads and local grads should stop arguing who is better. There are more pressing concerns, been hearing rumours that even some big firms are reducing/abolishing TCs or retention

Now it is not the time to compare who is better or not
“Hearing rumours”? Don’t talk **** please
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Alamak you all UK grads and local grads should stop arguing who is better. There are more pressing concerns, been hearing rumours that even some big firms are reducing/abolishing TCs or retention

Now it is not the time to compare who is better or not
Abolishing TCs seriously?? How will they get fresh blood then? Not to mention cheap labour.


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I graduated from 1 of the ivy league law schools, but it is not 1 of the scheduled universities. What are my chances to get an exemption from the minister for law? Hoping to return to SG for my family.
Hey there fellow US law student! Did you go to UPenn or Cornell . I'm also at a T14 that's not one of the scheduled universities . Would love to hear the answer to your question as well, since I miss my family in Singapore too!
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Abolishing TCs seriously?? How will they get fresh blood then? Not to mention cheap labour.
I am not the one you quoted but I believe some firms, in order to cut costs, will choose either:

1) Offer TCs but don't retain

2) No TCs but employ associates straight away


For option 1, it is great for some firms since there is ongoing cheap labour and obedient subordinates. I think, if I am not wrong, a few small law practices are doing this so that they can save money on secretaries, which the boss has to pay more for experience and bonuses.

For option 2, some law firms opt to do this because they had experience of former trainees 'playing them out' by opting not to stay on with the training firm. Usually it happens with bigger law firms, where the trainees whom they pooled resources and effort to train choose not to stay and jump ship. In even more drastic cases, the trainees just wanted to be called to the bar and FO from the legal industry and follow their interests


In any way, this is not really a good sign. And with the ongoing trade war between US and China, who knows what will happen to the economy?
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Hey there fellow US law student! Did you go to UPenn or Cornell . I'm also at a T14 that's not one of the scheduled universities . Would love to hear the answer to your question as well, since I miss my family in Singapore too!
are u from Northwestern?
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Yup I'm from NU . How did you know?
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Old 14-06-2019, 09:58 AM
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Yup I'm from NU . How did you know?
I think i know who you are. I rem that you said that you cannot live on the SGD5k starting pay at the so called "Big 4" in Singapore.

However, it is always good to be called to the Singapore Bar. Whether we actually want to come back or not is another story.

Well, ivy league universities which are not scheduled also includes Yale. Not just Penn and Cornell.

To be honest, it baffles me, why Yale cannot qualify for Singapore Bar, yet garbage Australian unis can? I understand that Pinky signed a trade pact, but surely not to the extent of accepting garbage?
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