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Originally Posted by Unregistered

a wise friend once told me - if someone is nasty at work, can you imagine how truly horrible they are in their private life?

had a b1tch senior as well. funnily she ended up marrying someone in the same firm. even more funnily the guy is known to be a flirt. jokes on her.

After 30, need to get married.
Wayang. Sham marriages. Same thing.

Just got accepted into bristol
Still waiting for nus to get back to me

So just inquiring is it tough for bristol grads with 2:1/ first to get into big4

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just got accepted into bristol
Still waiting for nus to get back to me

So just inquiring is it tough for bristol grads with 2:1/ first to get into big4

You have to wait 3 years later to find out. It might be better as they already cut 8 UK universities in 2015 so the glut will be reduced.

But if I were you, chiong for 1:1 because as a UK grad that is not from Oxbridge, you are already at a disadvantage. That is, unless you have solid backing and connections.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You have to wait 3 years later to find out. It might be better as they already cut 8 UK universities in 2015 so the glut will be reduced.

But if I were you, chiong for 1:1 because as a UK grad that is not from Oxbridge, you are already at a disadvantage. That is, unless you have solid backing and connections.

As long as it’s not Oxbridge, really worse off than NUS grads
Unless your parents are so influential that they can compel a firm to give you a TC and a job, frankly unless its Oxbridge, a UK degree doesn’t account for much (especially law)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As long as it’s not Oxbridge, really worse off than NUS grads
Unless your parents are so influential that they can compel a firm to give you a TC and a job, frankly unless its Oxbridge, a UK degree doesn’t account for much (especially law)

Agree with your post.

Heard of a guy who graduated from one of the de-listed UK universities in 2016 who is still finding RLT. Didn't help that his resume doesn't have much CCA, leadership roles in organizations and legal internship

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree with your post.

Heard of a guy who graduated from one of the de-listed UK universities in 2016 who is still finding RLT. Didn't help that his resume doesn't have much CCA, leadership roles in organizations and legal internship

Don't listen to all the fearmongers here, plenty of de-listed uni grads with better lives than the NUS grads. No one talks about the people that do well in those unis, get London TCs, enjoy life and then come back to become partners in SG firms.

Obviously even an NUS grad whose "resume doesn't have much CCA, leadership roles in organizations and legal internship" also not going to go far in life.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't listen to all the fearmongers here, plenty of de-listed uni grads with better lives than the NUS grads. No one talks about the people that do well in those unis, get London TCs, enjoy life and then come back to become partners in SG firms.

Obviously even an NUS grad whose "resume doesn't have much CCA, leadership roles in organizations and legal internship" also not going to go far in life.

Yeah but poster does not know the reality.
For every first class from a delisted university who has a decent job, there are another 5 first class out there with a less than ideal job, struggling with prospects.
For your every one London TC, how many others will have to come back to Singapore simply because they can’t get jobs overseas and they don’t have a permanent residence status in UK.
Bear in mind that law today is not the same as law just 15 years ago.
15 years ago, you get a 2:2 from a UK uni, you’re still fine.
Today, you’ll probably be a GC or senior legal counsel.
Graduates today even with a first class do not have a guaranteed career
Sure, one or two will make it out of say 10 first class (from UK), but no one talks about the other 8 who don’t make it and fade into the distance. Same fate even applies to London unis.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't listen to all the fearmongers here, plenty of de-listed uni grads with better lives than the NUS grads. No one talks about the people that do well in those unis, get London TCs, enjoy life and then come back to become partners in SG firms.

Obviously even an NUS grad whose "resume doesn't have much CCA, leadership roles in organizations and legal internship" also not going to go far in life.

I believe that poster was referring to the current situation now. What you mentioned isn't wrong, though I wouldn't say plenty of de-listed uni grads have better lives, but there is a minority who are doing quite well. But that is because they entered the market when it was not so competitive and easier to find TC and be retained. Not to forget, Part A was more bearable last time. I have been hearing rumours that the Company Law Exam in Part A as of now is so difficult that even current corporate law practitioners aren't able to answer in two hours, much less your graduates.

The situation now is quite dire. If you are from a de-listed uni with a 2:1 or 2:2, the odds are highly stacked against you to even obtain training. Some of the big firms are cutting down on trainees and the retaining numbers are decreasing bit by bit. It doesn't help that this current trade war between US and China may hurt Singapore significantly as we rely heavily on global trade.

Even those with 2:1 from the still-listed UK universities like Nottingham, Warwick and Bristol are finding it extremely difficult and I heard from hearsay that even the often-shunned Chinatown firms do receive requests for training even though they have never advertised. Law is no longer milk and honey anymore, rather it has become tougher to survive over the years, hence the high attrition rate.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just got accepted into bristol
Still waiting for nus to get back to me

So just inquiring is it tough for bristol grads with 2:1/ first to get into big4

s://sg.linkedin.com/in/ruhan-lee-10b81ba3

This guy graduated from Bristol in 2015, now chief legal officer leh. What are y’all talking about. He can “devise and draft all types of contracts”. More zai than some partners in big4.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

s://sg.linkedin.com/in/ruhan-lee-10b81ba3

This guy graduated from Bristol in 2015, now chief legal officer leh. What are y’all talking about. He can “devise and draft all types of contracts”. More zai than some partners in big4.

Walao this guy again ah.

How come his career history so dodgy one. The law firm he was in sounds like some indian firm with fake ang moh sounding name. Now this investment management firm also sounds dodgy.

This kind are like the legal sector's equivalent of MLM bros