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Old 24-06-2015, 07:13 PM
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For those that worked hard in school and excelled, they have the luxury of choices.
For those that didn't, better put in hard work to achieve any kind of luxury.

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All 4 are long working hours & average pay low bonus lah. It's a standard procedure for any average finance/accounting grad to go through 3-4 years of this real school before you have some marketability.

If you want to slack then just join any corp finance in a sme as accounting/finance exec lor. But your cv will be very limited and progression slower than those who go through big 4.
Long hours but the culture may differ ma. I heard certain rumors regarding the big 4 and just want to confirm the differences. Just like EY offers off in lieu but Deloitte don't. So I want to find out more about each company before diving in.

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Long hours but the culture may differ ma. I heard certain rumors regarding the big 4 and just want to confirm the differences. Just like EY offers off in lieu but Deloitte don't. So I want to find out more about each company before diving in.
You should just apply all 4 & see what you get, skali cannot even get any offer. Understand where you stand. You are not a star performer or scholar, they are choosing you, not the other way round.

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Long hours but the culture may differ ma. I heard certain rumors regarding the big 4 and just want to confirm the differences. Just like EY offers off in lieu but Deloitte don't. So I want to find out more about each company before diving in.
go back & get ur priorities right first. ur results are average & yet want fast career & pay progression.

ppl at ur level who have any common sense if heng enough a big4 offer them already jump for joy and here u r thinking u can choose the big4 u like base on some nonsense abt off in lieu rumour.
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Hi, I'm studying in a local uni and I'm currently in my final year. I have a degree in accountancy and minor in finance. What are the career opportunities that I should strongly consider? My results are average.
I have thought about joining the Big 4 but the incentives are really bad. Any other suggestions?

If your results are average, dun tink u can get into top notch big 4. Join other reputable audit firms, work hard for 2 years and try apply big 4 again and see if you can climp up the 4 big ships.
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If your results are average, dun tink u can get into top notch big 4. Join other reputable audit firms, work hard for 2 years and try apply big 4 again and see if you can climp up the 4 big ships.
you can, unless you are from some pseudo uni like sim. then they wont consider you.

even if you only graduate with a pass, the big 4 will still take you. lack of accountants with proper qualifications.
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you can, unless you are from some pseudo uni like sim. then they wont consider you.

even if you only graduate with a pass, the big 4 will still take you. lack of accountants with proper qualifications.
Pass degrees entering Deloitte or PWC? That would be interesting. Maybe some industry professionals can verify this
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Pass degrees entering Deloitte or PWC? That would be interesting. Maybe some industry professionals can verify this
Sometimes if too many vacancies can, but definitely not normal. Deloitte & EY usually standards lower, but PWC & KPMG I don't think they will accept pass only.
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you can, unless you are from some pseudo uni like sim. then they wont consider you.

even if you only graduate with a pass, the big 4 will still take you. lack of accountants with proper qualifications.
Lets say with 200 grads applying for 1 audit position, do you think they will blindfold n teekam teekam? Pay $2k+ pm still grab?


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Lets say with 200 grads applying for 1 audit position, do you think they will blindfold n teekam teekam? Pay $2k+ pm still grab?
Not really teekam. Their usual way of hiring is let's say they have 50 vacancies, they will offer about 80-100 people usually ranking them by academics & some qualitative factors.

Usually the top 20% people are not interested in big 4, they will just reject straight away. The remaining some will just drag & hope for other better offers outside big4 to come along. Slowly this group will also reject until the remaining 50 people are the ones that accept & confirm start work.

Base on my observation big4 usually gets the 50 to 70 percentile (between average & above average) of any cohort of fresh grads from the local uni. Below average they not interested, too good the candidates themself not interested.


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