ST vs CSC vs NCS vs CrimsonLogic?

oldbird · #1 (**permalink**) 01-12-2013, 07:21 PM

Any experience with working for these major system integrators?

Which one is better or worse to join?

Salary / Compensation Benefits
Career progression
Training and development
Working environment / culture
Job stability
Work-life balance / Family-oriented

#2 (**permalink**) 03-12-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oldbird

Any experience with working for these major system integrators?

Which one is better or worse to join?

Salary / Compensation Benefits
Career progression
Training and development
Working environment / culture
Job stability
Work-life balance / Family-oriented

You can find out some of this info at glassdoor.com.

#3 (**permalink**) 09-04-2014, 07:13 PM

It would be nice if any seniors out there willing to share about the working culture and remuneration (avg bonus and basic salary) of CrimsonLogic.

Thank you!

#4 (**permalink**) 11-04-2014, 03:24 PM

ST and NCS are the best places for benefits and salary. Increment is excellent too.

#5 (**permalink**) 11-04-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

ST and NCS are the best places for benefits and salary. Increment is excellent too.

ST and NCS.. Huh...sure or not?

#6 (**permalink**) 12-04-2014, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

ST and NCS.. Huh...sure or not?

NCS starting pay is $2850 for all fresh degree grad.

U start as a contract staff for the first 2 or 3 years, heard got people 5 years still never get permanent.

You get a bonus the first month after you renew your contract; about 2 months bonus on average.

You don't get AWS or variable bonus, and your leave and other benefits also lose to permanent staff.

After 1 year, they offered increment to $3000, which I think is ridiculous, 3K is like that average starting pay for all my peers. After 1 year they should be getting 3.3K on average liao + most of my peers are of perm status in other coy.

NCS work culture is what I call bao ka liao...

Basically normal SDLC cycle everyone in the team will be involved in the entire cycle from start to end. You even have to take on the role of call center for the customers!!! On top of doing programming, testing, requirement gathering, application analyst. They is no proper segmentation of who is in what role and does what, you take turns do everything. They only call in the experts from other department if they need help, and they are usually reluctant to help. So yeah, I think the pay is pathetic for a job like that.

#7 (**permalink**) 12-04-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

ST and NCS are the best places for benefits and salary. Increment is excellent too.

hello me work in ST
ns+2.2 NUS
start 2.9k
after 5.5yrs with 2 promotion now just hitting 4.1k

what do you think? dun bush!t man

#8 (**permalink**) 16-04-2014, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

NCS starting pay is $2850 for all fresh degree grad.

U start as a contract staff for the first 2 or 3 years, heard got people 5 years still never get permanent.

You get a bonus the first month after you renew your contract; about 2 months bonus on average.

You don't get AWS or variable bonus, and your leave and other benefits also lose to permanent staff.

After 1 year, they offered increment to $3000, which I think is ridiculous, 3K is like that average starting pay for all my peers. After 1 year they should be getting 3.3K on average liao + most of my peers are of perm status in other coy.

NCS work culture is what I call bao ka liao...

Basically normal SDLC cycle everyone in the team will be involved in the entire cycle from start to end. You even have to take on the role of call center for the customers!!! On top of doing programming, testing, requirement gathering, application analyst. They is no proper segmentation of who is in what role and does what, you take turns do everything. They only call in the experts from other department if they need help, and they are usually reluctant to help. So yeah, I think the pay is pathetic for a job like that.

Concur with this assessment.