SIM-RMIT fresh grad starting pay

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Congrats!

Rmit grads are indeed good! Comparable to grads from 0xbridge and top unis from States. Earlier I should have chosen it instead of spending so much on another uni.

cause you are stupid. my rmit class after 1 year:

1. ib banker - 10k
2. pb banker - 8k
3. asset mgr - 6k
4. big 4 - 3k
5. ceo - 100k

looks like the SIM nuts are at it again

Originally Posted by Unregistered

cause you are stupid. my rmit class after 1 year:

1. ib banker - 10k
2. pb banker - 8k
3. asset mgr - 6k
4. big 4 - 3k
5. ceo - 100k

Damn.. I probably shouldn't have gone to a local university..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Damn.. I probably shouldn't have gone to a local university..

only book smart. employers prefer street smart to book smart

Originally Posted by Unregistered

only book smart. employers prefer street smart to book smart

Wrong. Employer wants both street and book smart - something that SIM grads cannot offer. Cant even hold a decent argument against local grads and wanna talk about street smart?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

only book smart. employers prefer street smart to book smart

This is a very genuine question, and I really hope for some kind enlightenment from anyone who is able to provide a lucid response.

What exactly is this "street smart" quality that so many SIM graduates purport to have, that is lacking in the local uni graduates? Because I really don't see how an above-average local university graduate who has consistently beat the local education system, did multiple internships, went on a half-year long exchange programme in a foreign country etc.etc. can achieve any of the above without any semblance of "street smartness".

But if you're trying to say that "street smartness" is literally about being smart in avoiding danger while walking on a random street like Toa Payoh Lorong 2, then I concede.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is a very genuine question, and I really hope for some kind enlightenment from anyone who is able to provide a lucid response.

What exactly is this "street smart" quality that so many SIM graduates purport to have, that is lacking in the local uni graduates? Because I really don't see how an above-average local university graduate who has consistently beat the local education system, did multiple internships, went on a half-year long exchange programme in a foreign country etc.etc. can achieve any of the above without any semblance of "street smartness".

But if you're trying to say that "street smartness" is literally about being smart in avoiding danger while walking on a random street like Toa Payoh Lorong 2, then I concede.

My gut sense is what most of SIM regard as street smartness is actually more of being a smart ass then anything else.

If you look at some common features of street smartness such as EQ, ability to think on your feet, out of the box creativity, understanding organizational politics, leveraging on connections , deal making etc. local university grads are at least on par if not better. There is no discernible evidence to show that SIM on the whole is better or even on the same level as local uni grads in these areas.

Based on my observations, when a SIM tries to chalk up his street credentials, the emphasis is usually on dubious areas such as thrash talking, puffing, cutting corners, finding excuses for procrastinating & lousy achievements, engaging in legal/regulatory grey area activities etc. You can see a lot of these behavior patterns in SIM and any other private university oriented thread even on this forum.

But one must also note there is a certain self selection bias inherent - the good SIMs have long moved on and are likely competing on a different field in which a SIM degree is but a distant past memory. Those that are left around whining and/or boasting tend to be underachievers with self-esteem issues.

Successful SIM-RMIT grads are trying very hard to get into NUS/NTU/SMU MBA program. Me a distance learning grad has long admitted this reality.

a lot of SIM grads becauz the co discriminate against them no choice set up own biz or do sales. end up many become richer boss and end up hiring the local grad to do all the hard work & they shake leg make money.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

a lot of SIM grads becauz the co discriminate against them no choice set up own biz or do sales. end up many become richer boss and end up hiring the local grad to do all the hard work & they shake leg make money.

I've said this before, but for every 'success' stories you can find from Pte Unis, you can easily hear of dozens more from local Unis. sorry to burst your bubble but such is the reality.