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Old 12-03-2023, 06:32 PM
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agree on this!
Bo bian.. hr insisted want current manager comments for character referee (performance & salary info too). Already thick skin to ask manager for help, I can’t stop the manager’s mouth from telling the team too.. anyone would have assumed it’s a almost-secured offer and I’m just waiting for time before the resignation.

Any help / advice on this please? Can I write in to the particular ministry minister or hr head?
Also, do you think this is purely a decision from the hr (hiring manager not aware) or?

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Old 12-03-2023, 10:27 PM
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Bo bian.. hr insisted want current manager comments for character referee (performance & salary info too). Already thick skin to ask manager for help, I can’t stop the manager’s mouth from telling the team too.. anyone would have assumed it’s a almost-secured offer and I’m just waiting for time before the resignation.

Any help / advice on this please? Can I write in to the particular ministry minister or hr head?
Also, do you think this is purely a decision from the hr (hiring manager not aware) or?
if they need to do the character reference check, u can't do much to stop them tbh.

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Old 12-03-2023, 10:41 PM
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if they need to do the character reference check, u can't do much to stop them tbh.
Exactly. The ministry is set to troll me there’s nothing I can do. Everyone probably think I am getting the job since the hr went to contact my current manager. If the hr is not 100% confirmed they want to hire me, they should not even reach that stage.

Just to declare before any guys decided to flame me, hr verbally offered me the job with $$ discussed initially. I accepted and the hr went to reach out to my manager.

I can accept the fact if the hr decided to u turn on me due to my issues (eg bad appraisal from manager, issues with my clearance, discrepancies with any info I provided). But apparently, none of the issues happening is my fault, and hr is not disclosing anything else, except offering me a (worst off) revised offer.

I’m not asking for any pity, but just wanted to check if anyone else encountered similar experience before, and if there are any solutions I can do at this stage to savage this. TYVM.

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Old 12-03-2023, 11:03 PM
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Signs
1. Been waiting for 3 weeks for LOA
2. Informed that the Terms of the offer changed (to something worst off without my agreement)
3. Start date was supposed to be end March (as per last conversation 3 weeks ago). We are getting nearer to start date but there is no urgency from hr to sign the offer or anything else.
So far I have not heard things like this from my colleagues who got the government jobs.
Which ministry or SB is it?
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Old 13-03-2023, 09:05 AM
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Exactly. The ministry is set to troll me there’s nothing I can do. Everyone probably think I am getting the job since the hr went to contact my current manager. If the hr is not 100% confirmed they want to hire me, they should not even reach that stage.

Just to declare before any guys decided to flame me, hr verbally offered me the job with $$ discussed initially. I accepted and the hr went to reach out to my manager.

I can accept the fact if the hr decided to u turn on me due to my issues (eg bad appraisal from manager, issues with my clearance, discrepancies with any info I provided). But apparently, none of the issues happening is my fault, and hr is not disclosing anything else, except offering me a (worst off) revised offer.

I’m not asking for any pity, but just wanted to check if anyone else encountered similar experience before, and if there are any solutions I can do at this stage to savage this. TYVM.
so long as things are not signed on the dotted line, employer has every right as well to revise the fine print of the hiring.
if the other side short change u by undercutting the offered pay significantly, then got to talk things out.

and be glad tt the offer is still on the table for u to take, albeit with some pay revision.
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Old 13-03-2023, 12:04 PM
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Another perspective. The verbal offer is probably the range and based on typical formula calculations and vetted by HR (maybe a DD or D). Usually this is the norm and the Approving Authority usually don’t comment too much. However there are some circumstances the AA will comment pay too high. Maybe internal info they know budget going tight eg they pushing for higher headcount, or even PSD directive. Or the AA is new and wanna yaya and comment and you just unlock. Or the HR failed to see a factor and spotted by the AA. Or also possible HR miscalculated but corrected after discussing with you. They not gonna admit it. If they still offer you I say the change has got nothing to do with you. You just assess if the revised offer is good for you.


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Exactly. The ministry is set to troll me there’s nothing I can do. Everyone probably think I am getting the job since the hr went to contact my current manager. If the hr is not 100% confirmed they want to hire me, they should not even reach that stage.

Just to declare before any guys decided to flame me, hr verbally offered me the job with $$ discussed initially. I accepted and the hr went to reach out to my manager.

I can accept the fact if the hr decided to u turn on me due to my issues (eg bad appraisal from manager, issues with my clearance, discrepancies with any info I provided). But apparently, none of the issues happening is my fault, and hr is not disclosing anything else, except offering me a (worst off) revised offer.

I’m not asking for any pity, but just wanted to check if anyone else encountered similar experience before, and if there are any solutions I can do at this stage to savage this. TYVM.
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It’s another Monday…
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Another perspective. The verbal offer is probably the range and based on typical formula calculations and vetted by HR (maybe a DD or D). Usually this is the norm and the Approving Authority usually don’t comment too much. However there are some circumstances the AA will comment pay too high. Maybe internal info they know budget going tight eg they pushing for higher headcount, or even PSD directive. Or the AA is new and wanna yaya and comment and you just unlock. Or the HR failed to see a factor and spotted by the AA. Or also possible HR miscalculated but corrected after discussing with you. They not gonna admit it. If they still offer you I say the change has got nothing to do with you. You just assess if the revised offer is good for you.
Thanks for the perspective.

This is not the first time hr revised my offer.
I accept the first time it’s based on formula calculations so it might not be accurate. With the first “mistake” as experience, I would assume they will be more careful when giving a revised offer. But now they are telling me the revised offer given was still incorrect and this latest revised offer only came 1 day before signing of offer letter.

Yes they still decided to offer me but with another low ball salary.

Current situation: not yet resigned, but manager and team already knew about this potential “offer”. Min/sb is low balling me (amended offer twice).

I know many will ask me not to take up this, but I can’t possibly stay with my company, and I’m not too sure about the hiring market in the next few months.
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Old 13-03-2023, 10:17 PM
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it depends on whether u wan to stay or go.

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Thanks for the perspective.

This is not the first time hr revised my offer.
I accept the first time it’s based on formula calculations so it might not be accurate. With the first “mistake” as experience, I would assume they will be more careful when giving a revised offer. But now they are telling me the revised offer given was still incorrect and this latest revised offer only came 1 day before signing of offer letter.

Yes they still decided to offer me but with another low ball salary.

Current situation: not yet resigned, but manager and team already knew about this potential “offer”. Min/sb is low balling me (amended offer twice).

I know many will ask me not to take up this, but I can’t possibly stay with my company, and I’m not too sure about the hiring market in the next few months.
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