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04-09-2012, 08:38 PM
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Hi all, i have a diploma in hr management and up to now got 2++ years work exp as key account manager. I am very good with communicating with people and thinking of exploring hr dept.
Is it possible to join a big mnc as a talent manager or development manager? What is the pay like? Now getting 2.5k, is 3k too much?
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06-09-2012, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by beckkeong
Hi all
I am a Organizational Psychologist from malaysia currently seeking employment in singapore. I have a Masters in I/O Psychology and registered with the Australian Board of Psychologists. I have been trying very hard to secure a job and have applied for a myriad jobs relating to i/o psychology/ HR/ eudcation ( as i have good experience in that field as well ) but to no avail.
What kind of pay should i be expecting or asking for and what can i do to give myself a better chance of securing a role?
thank you
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0 jobs available, and negative amount pay.... except from education, that one big bucks
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06-09-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by poor and stupid
0 jobs available, and negative amount pay.... except from education, that one big bucks
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thanks for your reply .. you've been helpful
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09-09-2012, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by windsor
To be fair I know cases of ops HR becoming BP in the end, but they it takes very long. The few I know are already late 40s who work from the ground up for decades slowly before getting into BP.
So the engineer guy need to ask himself what career he really want.
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ok fair enough after hearing so much... I guess I wouldnt need broad knowledge to enter a specialise area...in HR
so can C&B relate to BP? i think BP is really not easy although I have interest..
BP is a development of successful, long term, strategic relationships between customers and suppliers, based on achieving best practice and sustainable competitive advantage. So understand the business u are in is important...but when jump ship experience is much more valuable as you know how the market shift globally...
however for C&B.. focus on employee compensation and benefits policy-making. I think I am more of a person like this... I am not so much into engaging strategic movement... and would like to focus how C&B can help in hiring and retain employees..
to cut short... with a local degree certificate in engineering plus 2 years of project mgt experience.. where should I start out first? I have been knocking on wrong doors or perhaps the doors are always close for such person who wan to do a switch..
does taking a advance diploma helps? its a risk to take if I take up diploma but no one wants me... as ppl says exp prove more than anything else.. I am 27 odd this year...
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10-09-2012, 10:30 AM
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What do you know about BP or C&B beside big words like "strategic movement" "best practice" "market shift" etc?
Seems you are sending conflicting signal all over. One momement you want to be generalist, halfway change to BP, then become admin and now you wana do C&B.
Why not you elaborate what you expect from C&B or BP or generalist? Be specific & detail about it, not generic nonsense like "compensation & benefit policy making"
In order to get useful advice, you must provide us what is your understanding of the job , why you think your character skillset is helpful and what sort of pay progress are you looking at. Repeating again & again your degree qualification and your short project mgt exp doesnt cut the mustard.
One more helpful tip, cut down all those big words from your CV & cover letter when you apply for jobs, it sounds very kuku when used by a freshie exec level guy.
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Originally Posted by haiz2006
ok fair enough after hearing so much... I guess I wouldnt need broad knowledge to enter a specialise area...in HR
so can C&B relate to BP? i think BP is really not easy although I have interest..
BP is a development of successful, long term, strategic relationships between customers and suppliers, based on achieving best practice and sustainable competitive advantage. So understand the business u are in is important...but when jump ship experience is much more valuable as you know how the market shift globally...
however for C&B.. focus on employee compensation and benefits policy-making. I think I am more of a person like this... I am not so much into engaging strategic movement... and would like to focus how C&B can help in hiring and retain employees..
to cut short... with a local degree certificate in engineering plus 2 years of project mgt experience.. where should I start out first? I have been knocking on wrong doors or perhaps the doors are always close for such person who wan to do a switch..
does taking a advance diploma helps? its a risk to take if I take up diploma but no one wants me... as ppl says exp prove more than anything else.. I am 27 odd this year...
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10-09-2012, 11:51 AM
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IMO you should just stick with engineering, there is no pt in changing industry for the sake of changing.
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10-09-2012, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pam
Hi all, i have a diploma in hr management and up to now got 2++ years work exp as key account manager. I am very good with communicating with people and thinking of exploring hr dept.
Is it possible to join a big mnc as a talent manager or development manager? What is the pay like? Now getting 2.5k, is 3k too much?
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no offence, but your sort of qualification or experience even apply for admin exec also not easy. talent & development manager is way too above for you.
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10-09-2012, 05:56 PM
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He has no idea lah, just cut & paste from some job portal
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Originally Posted by focus
What do you know about BP or C&B beside big words like "strategic movement" "best practice" "market shift" etc?
Seems you are sending conflicting signal all over. One momement you want to be generalist, halfway change to BP, then become admin and now you wana do C&B.
Why not you elaborate what you expect from C&B or BP or generalist? Be specific & detail about it, not generic nonsense like "compensation & benefit policy making"
In order to get useful advice, you must provide us what is your understanding of the job , why you think your character skillset is helpful and what sort of pay progress are you looking at. Repeating again & again your degree qualification and your short project mgt exp doesnt cut the mustard.
One more helpful tip, cut down all those big words from your CV & cover letter when you apply for jobs, it sounds very kuku when used by a freshie exec level guy.
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11-09-2012, 12:42 AM
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ha
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Originally Posted by focus
What do you know about BP or C&B beside big words like "strategic movement" "best practice" "market shift" etc?
Seems you are sending conflicting signal all over. One momement you want to be generalist, halfway change to BP, then become admin and now you wana do C&B.
Why not you elaborate what you expect from C&B or BP or generalist? Be specific & detail about it, not generic nonsense like "compensation & benefit policy making"
In order to get useful advice, you must provide us what is your understanding of the job , why you think your character skillset is helpful and what sort of pay progress are you looking at. Repeating again & again your degree qualification and your short project mgt exp doesnt cut the mustard.
One more helpful tip, cut down all those big words from your CV & cover letter when you apply for jobs, it sounds very kuku when used by a freshie exec level guy.
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dont have to shoot him la... "focus" are you an evaluator or recruitment or high end consultant?? ppl already explained what he wants, you pin point him say using big words, blar blar... some netizens already expressed his point of view in a different way and for an engineering student to switch to HR having such mental thoughts are quite normal and logical (give chance la)..HR so wide, and one should always know his basic knowledge of HR even for a Non HR person.. just go google, he can give u tons of BP scope, C&B scope etc. he clearly stated his direction while having other thoughts of broad knowledge, tats why he came here to ask.. many ppl here learnt from confusion..and own state of mind.. dont want help, den dont lo... dont act so big or some big shot here la..
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