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Old 14-03-2022, 08:36 AM
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The sucky part of being in a govt role. You should ask him how to score as a first year and give specific examples on how to score B grade. Most probably he cant tell you.

Hate it when a dinosaur says you cant perform just because you have joined for a short while.
The inherent problem with the system is that there are quotas for perf grades because of finite budgets for performance bonuses, and also the need to manage top-heaviness in the service. So the coping mechanism for that is to deliberately "space out" the award of quality performance grades, and "pace" the promotion rates of all but the most elite scholars.

It's dumb but that's the way it is. Would also like to see greater differentiation between the most outstanding performers (regardless of status), but that also means that the average performers will have to be content with receiving C grades basically every single year. Theoretically speaking, that should be the way, but staff morale and affirmation of small improvements is also a people management strategy.. right?

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Hi guys, Iím currently a GEO 4 in my 5th year of service. Was just offered HOD appointment but I rejected it. I didnít require much about the position, but is this likely to be an internal appointment? Secondly, would this slow down my career progression?
I assume you are an SH/LH? If the position presented is for hod of another department, it makes sense for you to decline the offer when you have no interest in it. At the same time, the SLs might have done so because they saw potential in you to take on greater responsibilities but the existing hod position within your existing dept is filled. It could also be that the school needed someone to fill a void and you are a suitable candidate.

For me, I will take up the offer as it is an opportunity since the progression also means that my cep would be reviewed. Of course, one would need to consider if he/she really likes the offer and is able to perform up to expectation. If I am an existing SH/Math and the school wants to offer me Year Head, I will reject it too knowing that the apportionment means endless saiÖ.

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Hi guys, Iím currently a GEO 4 in my 5th year of service. Was just offered HOD appointment but I rejected it. I didnít require much about the position, but is this likely to be an internal appointment? Secondly, would this slow down my career progression?
Why would the school offer a GEO4 HOD position when you have not done work as a SH? Sounds like an internal appointment rather than an official appointment.

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Why would the school offer a GEO4 HOD position when you have not done work as a SH? Sounds like an internal appointment rather than an official appointment.
The usual reason is that some (big?) gap needs to be urgently filled. Maybe the previous appointment holder stepped down, or ragequit, or something.. and ongoing tasks/projects are left hanging.
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Usually, P can recommend but they will not be able to accelerate a promotion because this is controlled by MOE-HR. And there are rules a) scholar/non-scholar status b) job performance for the past x years c) CEP and d) Number of years in that job grade e)age.

Usually, a person who has a higher CEP may only need 3-4 A/Bs to move up to the next grade whereas someon who has similar grades but lower CEP will just have to wait for their turn.

Nowadays, promotion in job grade has stalled significantly so it is not suprising that a jump of each job grade may just take like 5 years or more rather than the 3 years. For higher job grades such as SEOs, it will also depends on the number of vailable positions nationally.

It is the role of the P to indicate to HQ not to promote people to failure. This is especially crucial if the officer has been in the job grade for a number of years and is not performing well. If the officer is promoted to the next job grade, then it is even tougher for him/her to perform to the expectations.


So does it mean even P does not recommend MOE HQ will still promote?


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So does it mean even P does not recommend MOE HQ will still promote?
thats possible.
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Which platform to see PB grade and quantum? TY
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Anyone know the increment from geo5 to Seo1 and from Seo1 to seo2? Both PI and MI together?


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Anyone know the increment from geo5 to Seo1 and from Seo1 to seo2? Both PI and MI together?
This is not a very meaningful question because it depends on various factors (e.g. how far along you are in your salary scale, your actual performance rating, etc.). So there is no one set answer.

If you're really curious, people have shared various increments before - you'd just have to search for them. FWIW, my increase was about $600 going from GEO5 to SEO1.
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This is not a very meaningful question because it depends on various factors (e.g. how far along you are in your salary scale, your actual performance rating, etc.). So there is no one set answer.

If you're really curious, people have shared various increments before - you'd just have to search for them. FWIW, my increase was about $600 going from GEO5 to SEO1.
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