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Old 22-04-2024, 08:39 PM
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How long does one get stucked at H normally? Hoping to hit I within 2-3 years
more than that la I at smaller agencies is DSM or AD at bigger ministries/agencies...if there is no vacant DSM/AD spot wait 4-5 years also won't hit

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more than that la I at smaller agencies is DSM or AD at bigger ministries/agencies...if there is no vacant DSM/AD spot wait 4-5 years also won't hit
No lei, HR already briefed say now easier to get promoted

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Old 22-04-2024, 09:05 PM
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all the grade H lamenting here 💪
Haha, thatís why every year Grade H EES scores always lowest. They are the most unhappy sandwiched layer.

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How long does one get stucked at H normally? Hoping to hit I within 2-3 years
I know someone stuck as Grade H for 8 years. His users have promoted from manager to DD but his title is changed from Application Consultant to DBA. Lol.
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Sorry grade J, i see my own grade wrongly haha
I have never heard of Grade J PM. PM usually at most Grade I. Grade J usually would be DSM already, with PMs and Digital BAs reporting to him/her.
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Old 22-04-2024, 11:39 PM
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Principal Engineer only need L2 leadership, so quite clear they are considering to have specialist track. But how far they plan to push this is another question, and whether various division can have their own specialists instead of just massively congregate in PIC
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Old 23-04-2024, 12:03 AM
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If possible, can follow those consulting firms to allow an individual to take own initiative to build up portfolio across different projects and not limited to the same RO. The more u do and do it well, the more points u get to qualify for promotion. This will drive away the slackers and attract the true talent.
Thats what's happening to my agencies. Not just doing your core job reporting to RO1 but also side job reporting to similar rank
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Old 23-04-2024, 12:06 AM
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Since GovTech considers itself to be above an average high tech company, maybe it should adopt a more modern HR practice to have a promotion review committee and allow individual to pitch to the committee similar to those upper tier tech companies. Similarity, for job rotation, should allow a person to apply for a higher grade job. Of course, probation can applies. This will also incentivise ppl to rotate instead of stuck in the same place and waiting for their promotion queue number to be called.
Pls raise this during gvt con
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more than that la I at smaller agencies is DSM or AD at bigger ministries/agencies...if there is no vacant DSM/AD spot wait 4-5 years also won't hit
Go specialist role lo

Once got slot, then change to DSM route
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No lei, HR already briefed say now easier to get promoted
Yup , and I feel it happened to me
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