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Old 21-01-2011, 03:07 AM
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Hi all, I know the following is a bit irrelevant here, but I will like to consult all veterans here whether a stat board or ministry will check why you got downgraded in ns when you are offered a job? Like for me I got downgraded due to psycho illness. Thanks.

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Hi Bobo, first of all, i like to say that your comments are good and fair.
ignore that prick who only knows how to hurl rubbish without any facts to substantiate himself

But i managed to earn more than 5k in 4 years of working.
I am a 3rd class honours from NUS, mech engine.
Started off in a shipyard as an engineer with 2.4k per month.
Left the shipyard 3 years later at 2.8k per month.
Managed to get into a MNC at 5.1k per month.
So i say it is possible.

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Old 21-01-2011, 10:12 AM
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Most discerning readers will know who is sharing hard truths, and who is spilling insecurity bile.

I make hiring decisions and the sad fact is that many qualified (some even highly) foreign job seekers are willing to do more with less. Although I empathize with the young fresh grads, sometimes it just does not make compelling business sense to hire them. Yes it may be short sighted but it is a moot argument under the existing government policies.

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Old 21-01-2011, 10:14 AM
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Hi Bobo, first of all, i like to say that your comments are good and fair.
ignore that prick who only knows how to hurl rubbish without any facts to substantiate himself

But i managed to earn more than 5k in 4 years of working.
I am a 3rd class honours from NUS, mech engine.
Started off in a shipyard as an engineer with 2.4k per month.
Left the shipyard 3 years later at 2.8k per month.
Managed to get into a MNC at 5.1k per month.
So i say it is possible.
Hi, I suppose your 1st job as a shipyard engineer is at ST Marine? Why?, Because after 3 years with the same company, you only getting 2.8k when you start off with 2.4k. I assume during this 3 years, you got 3 annual increment + 1 promotion to senior engineer, from my brother(Also from ST Engineering group), every annual increment is about 3-4% & promotion is about 4-6%. Which is CMI.

I congrats you that you managed to jump ship to a new job, with about 82% jump increment to $5.1k per month. This is really alot!!!, almost double your previous salary of $2.8k. How you do it??
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Hi, I suppose your 1st job as a shipyard engineer is at ST Marine? Why?, Because after 3 years with the same company, you only getting 2.8k when you start off with 2.4k. I assume during this 3 years, you got 3 annual increment + 1 promotion to senior engineer, from my brother(Also from ST Engineering group), every annual increment is about 3-4% & promotion is about 4-6%. Which is CMI.

I congrats you that you managed to jump ship to a new job, with about 82% jump increment to $5.1k per month. This is really alot!!!, almost double your previous salary of $2.8k. How you do it??
Yes, you are right. How astute.

I got an "A" grade in my last appraisal so my bonus was quite a lot.
During my job interview with the MNC, i told him my pay was xxx.
I took my annual (including bonuses) and divide by 12.
They didnt ask if it was gross or included bonuses...so i kept quiet.

I ask for a certain % above this stated pay. They didnt bargain and gave me what i wanted.
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Yes, you are right. How astute.

I got an "A" grade in my last appraisal so my bonus was quite a lot.
During my job interview with the MNC, i told him my pay was xxx.
I took my annual (including bonuses) and divide by 12.
They didnt ask if it was gross or included bonuses...so i kept quiet.

I ask for a certain % above this stated pay. They didnt bargain and gave me what i wanted.
Lol, they(your new company) never ask you the last pay slip one when talking about your new salary??Haha...you are lucky man
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Old 21-01-2011, 03:24 PM
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Thanks. If you have 10 years experience, don't you think WDA is a bit small potato for you? Stat boards are already rather small organisations and WDA is like the small fish.

I know they call their fresh grads 'Mgrs' if that helps. I think its better to be known as an executive in a big company than an asst director in a small company.

Just my opinion. From my experience, it's quite amusing to see an assistant director or 'head' deal with my executive.
Well, I agree that 10yrs experience in the pte sector, especially in a SME had put my experience meter to overdrive, having to manage the business from scratch and not doing too shabby.

However, it is still a SME and MNCs definitely pay better, from what I see in this forum, even for the same job responsibilities.

Doing an MBA I guess will also help (minimum local uni if not IVY league schools). The quality of the MBA is impt, even when I hire myself as I know the gulf in standards too.

Finally, let's keep this forum useful and not let our emotions get in the way. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


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Yes, you are right. How astute.

I got an "A" grade in my last appraisal so my bonus was quite a lot.
During my job interview with the MNC, i told him my pay was xxx.
I took my annual (including bonuses) and divide by 12.
They didnt ask if it was gross or included bonuses...so i kept quiet.

I ask for a certain % above this stated pay. They didnt bargain and gave me what i wanted.
May I know is your work experience related/transferable to this new MNC?

How did you get the interview, headhunted?

Love to hear success stories like this, happy for you

Another success story of an early 30s engineer
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Lol, they(your new company) never ask you the last pay slip one when talking about your new salary??Haha...you are lucky man
i have already moved on from that MNC.
But anyway, they didnt ask for my payslip. It was new setup, expanding in South East Asia so i guess they wanted to hire as soon as possible.

the work at the MNC was not entirely related of my work in the shipyard. got the job via a recruitment agency
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i have already moved on from that MNC.
But anyway, they didnt ask for my payslip. It was new setup, expanding in South East Asia so i guess they wanted to hire as soon as possible.

the work at the MNC was not entirely related of my work in the shipyard. got the job via a recruitment agency
how old are you? or u born in which year , 1982 or 1981 or 1980??
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