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Old 04-04-2019, 11:10 PM
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Since i started this :

Nope. there is still a cap even if the bequest go CPF. And you cant specify the CPF account for bequest to go to. Pls give CPF a call. And as i said before, we are all CPF fans.

I am not sure about the point you said you can hold 2 jobs and for both jobs to contribute to 37.4k . Why ?
While i didnt hold 2 jobs, i had sign on bonus when i joined a competitor firm and the sign on bonus attracted CPF contributions. From there, my excess CPF from my new job was returned to me in cash. Hence i think there is a max cap of 37.4k (ie annual limit) no matter how many jobs you hold that contribute...And if you hold 2 jobs and both contribute CPF , it will still be capped to annual limit. Anything above will be refunded. And if you are figuring how this can happen, i changed job in dec.



Finally, The idea of business man registering the sons over multiple companies and contributing CPF to the max just to beat the game and get interest is ridiculous lah. Why ?

because if you do it, then the business man basically is declaring that their children is earning income of 102k per year per job. You cant contribute to CPF by stating it is employment income yet declare later to IRAS that all income was paid in CPF only. MOM employment regulations dont allow this. [Of course, if you wish to make false declaration then that is another story]

Imagine the income tax that the business man have to pay just to earn such miserable interest on CPF for their children..... Not a very smart business man.

As i said, i dont doubt you can earn 40k in interest... but as seen in AK71,
it is difficult.. and wife + you have achieved this.. meaning you have a lots of monies in CPF... around 3 m based on rough calculations

And since you got me started... i started to re-read your post.
You mentioned 9 years ago, you had 3.3m .. now above $7m.
With a $3m CPF, your non CPF networth is 4 m.. I dont know how much you had in CPF 9 years ago, but like this discussion thread - everything is possible. So using simple maths to calculate and assume no bequest etc, then it is possible your CPF grew by $800k for both you and wife in last 9 years. That means your non CPF investments 9 years ago $1.1m with CPF at $2m. If you want to share, share about how you grew your non CPF investment from 1.1m to 4m in 9 years. Cos that is truly impressive and will like to learn from you.
This discussion is getting convoluted and complicated because there are at least three different respondents here.

But first, thanks for the clarification on the fact that one CANNOT bequeath CPF monies to your beneficiaries' OA, but only to their SA (if they are below 55, and capped at prevailing FRS), or their RA (if they are above 55, and capped at the prevailing ERS) and MA (capped at the prevailing BHS).

I was not the one who suggested that businessmen contributed monies into their children's CPF accounts although this is a common practice not just among business people but ordinary executives who have spare money left over.

However I was the one who stated that although the maximum CPF contribution per year is $37,740, a person can actually contribute more that amount if he works two or more jobs at the same time. This is a fact. Just call the CPF office or better still write in for a black & white reply.

About my networth growing from $3.3M to over $7M in 9 years? I did mention we suffered paper losses during the GFC. With the strong property & stocks recovery, we made back the paper loss amount and then some. I also accumulated more stocks during the recovery process and the value just grew.

If you read carefully, I also mentioned that although my wife and I were not holding top management positions, we were earning comfortable remuneration. These have allowed us to purchase our rental property with cash and still be able to return to CPF the amounts that we used for our primary residence purchase.

Now, knowing the fact one cannot receive bequests into one's OA, it makes us OA millionaires an even more special achievement.

To be a CPF millionaire is already quite an achievement, but to be a CPF OA millionaire is an even rarer achievement. CW8888 achieved this at 62, I did it at 56.

Just looking at the CPF growth trajectory of AK71, at 48 with $845K in his combined CPF accounts, if he continues to contribute maximum of $37,740 into his CPF, by 55, he should hit $1M in his CPF OA. His overall CPF combined amount would then in the region of $1.3M

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Old 05-04-2019, 12:14 PM
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39 yrs old
Married with 2 primary schooling kids
Combined :
900k cash in fixed deposit yielding 1.7-1.9% pa
375k in GE 2.80% 3yr plan
115k in SRS : split into 90k in stocks and 25k ssb
330k in cpf OA alone

Hdb fully paid for
Car loan 150k

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Old 05-04-2019, 05:43 PM
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Congrats ! that is why i am login and u can see my post on who post what.

Interesting pt on the 2jobs -I will need to check why i was refunded in cash previously by CPF board. I was given the impression the annual cap is final and anything above is refunded


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This discussion is getting convoluted and complicated because there are at least three different respondents here.

But first, thanks for the clarification on the fact that one CANNOT bequeath CPF monies to your beneficiaries' OA, but only to their SA (if they are below 55, and capped at prevailing FRS), or their RA (if they are above 55, and capped at the prevailing ERS) and MA (capped at the prevailing BHS).

I was not the one who suggested that businessmen contributed monies into their children's CPF accounts although this is a common practice not just among business people but ordinary executives who have spare money left over.

However I was the one who stated that although the maximum CPF contribution per year is $37,740, a person can actually contribute more that amount if he works two or more jobs at the same time. This is a fact. Just call the CPF office or better still write in for a black & white reply.

About my networth growing from $3.3M to over $7M in 9 years? I did mention we suffered paper losses during the GFC. With the strong property & stocks recovery, we made back the paper loss amount and then some. I also accumulated more stocks during the recovery process and the value just grew.

If you read carefully, I also mentioned that although my wife and I were not holding top management positions, we were earning comfortable remuneration. These have allowed us to purchase our rental property with cash and still be able to return to CPF the amounts that we used for our primary residence purchase.

Now, knowing the fact one cannot receive bequests into one's OA, it makes us OA millionaires an even more special achievement.

To be a CPF millionaire is already quite an achievement, but to be a CPF OA millionaire is an even rarer achievement. CW8888 achieved this at 62, I did it at 56.

Just looking at the CPF growth trajectory of AK71, at 48 with $845K in his combined CPF accounts, if he continues to contribute maximum of $37,740 into his CPF, by 55, he should hit $1M in his CPF OA. His overall CPF combined amount would then in the region of $1.3M

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No, I was not being sarcastic.
Do you live in Singapore?
yes i live in Singapore. What about you?
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yes i live in Singapore. What about you?
Me too. How do we get in touch?
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Old 15-05-2019, 05:53 PM
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In the 40s, wife late 30s, 2 kids.
Combined income $300k+ pa.
Net worth, including stock, CPF, case, and home, around $4m.
2 cars, fully paid.
Working on generating passive income of around 8k a month, currently no where near that amount..
Update, 6 yrs later.
now in the late 40s, wife mid 40s, 2 kids entering teens.
Combined income $500k+ pa (I am still working)
Net worth, including stock, CPF, cash, and home, $5m+.
1 car, fully paid (take the bus sometimes)
Working on generating passive income of around 10k a month, currently nowhere near there still..
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Update, 6 yrs later.
now in the late 40s, wife mid 40s, 2 kids entering teens.
Combined income $500k+ pa (I am still working)
Net worth, including stock, CPF, cash, and home, $5m+.
1 car, fully paid (take the bus sometimes)
Working on generating passive income of around 10k a month, currently nowhere near there still..

My wife and I hope to retire when we reach 55 years old. We have been studying and working hard all our life and want to retire very soon to enjoy a more relaxed life. We have paid up our mortgage and we are debt free! We will retire in KL, where we can enjoy city living at a low cost. We have family ties and friends there. We will retire with the income we get from our property which we will rent out plus some dividend income from stocks. Our passive income will be about S$3,000 pm.

If we retire in Malaysia our passive income will be RM9,000 pm. This will enable us to rent a condo in KL for about RM1,500 pm. Our food, car and other expenses will be about RM5,000 pm. So, in total our expenses will be RM6,500 pm. We can still save RM2,500 pm. This is on top our cash savings of S$100,000.

When we reach 65, we will receive a payout of S$4,000 pm (RM12,000) from CPF Life which we will use to travel the world and rent a more expensive, upscale condo in KL. Our passive income at 65 will be S$7,000 pm (RM21,000 pm). We will be rich foreign retirees in KL, where we will live in a posh condo and drive a posh sports car. Life will be wonderful. Our children can visit us twice a year during the holidays.
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Old 19-05-2019, 11:18 AM
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Me too. How do we get in touch?
Which part of SG do you live in?
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Update, 6 yrs later.
now in the late 40s, wife mid 40s, 2 kids entering teens.
Combined income $500k+ pa (I am still working)
Net worth, including stock, CPF, cash, and home, $5m+.
1 car, fully paid (take the bus sometimes)
Working on generating passive income of around 10k a month, currently nowhere near there still..
Typical perpetual drawdown rate is 4%. With 5mil asset, you should have a safe 200k to spend a year, or about 16k a month. You shouldn't have issue to generate 10k a month.
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