What is the least amount of money you will be comfortable retiring with? - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Investments and Net Worth

Investments and Net Worth Talk all about money making exploits, shares, property and building net worth




What is the least amount of money you will be comfortable retiring with?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2011, 06:20 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1
andyv is on a distinguished road
Default What is the least amount of money you will be comfortable retiring with?

Don't think this has been asked before. I consider nest egg as all investments incl CPF but excluding value of residence.

For me I'd love to reach 2m or 3m but I think a minimum of 1m will be ok.

Also - how much do u think u will spend in a month on expenses after retirement? For me I think around 2.5k a mth, so annual withdrawal rate will be 3% which I think is safe enough.

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2011, 09:20 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by andyv View Post
Don't think this has been asked before. I consider nest egg as all investments incl CPF but excluding value of residence.

For me I'd love to reach 2m or 3m but I think a minimum of 1m will be ok.

Also - how much do u think u will spend in a month on expenses after retirement? For me I think around 2.5k a mth, so annual withdrawal rate will be 3% which I think is safe enough.
I have about 1m not counting CPF. But it's quite hard to generate a consistent income monthly. 10m will be easier - I can buy a couple condos and collect a few k rent per month for my spending.

Bottom-line: it's never enough! Cheers.

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2011, 07:26 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I have 10m+ in assets and am still working. I have financial assets of 5m, generating about $240K in passive income. I spend about $250K yearly so its not really enough if I want some savings to stave off inflation. Am thinking of renting out my current landed residence, which I estimate can bring me about $150-$180K per year. Altogether that's $35K per month, which should be comfortable and I can do some travelling in retirement.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 24-04-2011, 07:36 PM
Burn rate
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Eat pray sleep

How much to retire is a simple question but with many answers.

In a very simplified model, the amount is inversely proportional to your age at retirement. The younger you want to retire, the more you will need.

There are various retirement fund "calculators" available in sites such as CPF and NTUC Income. The calculators consider rate of inflation, your age, life expectancy and monthly drawdown amount. The problem with such models is that they are based on drawdown - meaning that you continuously drawdown on your savings till the funds go to zero. Hopefully that's when you kick the bucket.

For me, my retirement model is to have a core savings amount to generate passive income sufficient to fund a simple but comfy lifestyle. In my own model, that would mean a core savings of $3M. I am targeting a monthly passive income of $5 - 6K. In theory, such a model allows me to pass the core savings of the $3M to the next generation, barring unforeseen medical emergencies.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 24-04-2011, 09:08 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burn rate View Post
How much to retire is a simple question but with many answers.

In a very simplified model, the amount is inversely proportional to your age at retirement. The younger you want to retire, the more you will need.

There are various retirement fund "calculators" available in sites such as CPF and NTUC Income. The calculators consider rate of inflation, your age, life expectancy and monthly drawdown amount. The problem with such models is that they are based on drawdown - meaning that you continuously drawdown on your savings till the funds go to zero. Hopefully that's when you kick the bucket.

For me, my retirement model is to have a core savings amount to generate passive income sufficient to fund a simple but comfy lifestyle. In my own model, that would mean a core savings of $3M. I am targeting a monthly passive income of $5 - 6K. In theory, such a model allows me to pass the core savings of the $3M to the next generation, barring unforeseen medical emergencies.

Aiming for 2% to 2.4% return only?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 27-04-2011, 01:07 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default draft nonsuf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burn rate View Post
In theory, such a model allows me to pass the core savings of the $3M to the next generation, barring unforeseen medical emergencies.
My advice is not to pass so much to the next generation. It spoils them and they will not learn to struggle to achieve their potential. In the end it ruins them. I think if you pass each child $100-200K in today's money, it should be well enough. Spend the rest on yourself or charity.
Reply With Quote

  #7 (permalink)  
Old 18-06-2011, 07:05 PM
Verified Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 12
financialfreedom is on a distinguished road
Default

hoping to retire with passive income.
Therefore, unlimited!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 23-06-2011, 03:59 PM
Verified Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 21
sportscar is on a distinguished road
Default

about a billion dollar maybe,haha.. pretty much wishful thinking..
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-07-2011, 01:54 AM
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 115
undiscern is on a distinguished road
Default

800k is enough.

300k fully pay 3rm hdb flat and rent it out for 2k. buy a high class condo in klcc area for 300k. invest 200k in sph stocks. rental pkus dividend yields about s$2k in todays money and can sustain a comfy lifestyle in kl, staying in a luxurious kl condo near klcc.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 27-07-2011, 12:04 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If retire at 50 , 2.5 M cash, debt free, 5% return 10Kpm
If retire at 55 , 2 M Cash , debt Free, 5% return 8Kpm
If Retire at 60 , 1 M cash, debt free , 5% return 4Kpm supplement by decreasing the 1 M
base money. ( assuming 25years = additional 3.3K pM)
Balance cash for future generation

The longer I hold off retirement, the less I need...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
assets, cpf, inflation, retirement

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Property Agents make A LOT of Money Salary.sg Income and Jobs 209 28-09-2017 12:38 PM
Making money from blogging or books Husky Income and Jobs 1 14-08-2009 05:27 PM
Adam Khoo Makes Money Salary.sg Investments and Net Worth 10 28-05-2009 11:58 PM
Who will Inherit Your Money? Salary.sg Investments and Net Worth 1 02-03-2009 07:13 PM
Men, Divorcees Owe More Money Salary.sg Investments and Net Worth 0 14-06-2008 11:21 AM

» 30 Recent Threads
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,514 Replies, 1,407,290 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,193 Replies, 5,124,119 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,358 Replies, 3,473,725 Views
Work culture in IHiS ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
728 Replies, 557,093 Views
AML/Compliance/KYC professionals... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,855 Replies, 1,246,271 Views
Factual Local Bank Salaries - DBS... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,832 Replies, 1,453,666 Views
Banks' Pay and Bonuses ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
558 Replies, 507,076 Views
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,892 Replies, 2,324,782 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
11,223 Replies, 6,864,298 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,176 Replies, 3,817,291 Views
Ex-MOE Teachers ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
420 Replies, 503,944 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,287 Replies, 642,519 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
759 Replies, 418,510 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,700 Replies, 2,401,067 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
832 Replies, 392,929 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
21,179 Replies, 10,491,603 Views
Julius Baer Graduate Program 2023 ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
32 Replies, 17,354 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,061 Replies, 1,093,136 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,818 Replies, 1,584,233 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,353 Replies, 1,170,327 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,905 Replies, 4,739,632 Views
NUS (National University of... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
324 Replies, 329,296 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,444 Replies, 12,621,507 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,426 Replies, 4,856,018 Views
Working in SMRT ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
41 Replies, 59,196 Views
ITE Polytechnic Scheme ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
331 Replies, 381,756 Views
Work culture in CPF board ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
35 Replies, 78,426 Views
DBS tech seed programme ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,768 Replies, 1,521,465 Views
UOB Management Associate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,489 Replies, 808,577 Views
Maritime and Port Authority of... ( 1 2 3)
20 Replies, 20,400 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 05:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2