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Old 29-11-2022, 01:06 AM
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When people here share about their monthly salaries (especially fresh grads), are you dividing the annual package into months? Or are you sharing your monthly base salary without any bonuses added?

I asked for 4k a month but was shot down by HR who said they can only offer me roughly 3.3k a month because I need to consider 3.3k x 15 months and not 12 months.

Is this normal? Or am I getting lowballed? Iím just worried future employers will take my last drawn salary as 3.3k a month?

Advise please and thanks

[NUS, FCH fresh grad, female no NS, both degree and diploma are relevant to the job, 2 internships with 1 year total experience also extremely relevant to job]
3.3k is crap, no matter what field you are in for a NUS FCH.
Most civil service now already 4.8-5k for a FCH. You deserve more.

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3.3k is crap, no matter what field you are in for a NUS FCH.
Most civil service now already 4.8-5k for a FCH. You deserve more.
Thanks for replying. Yes, I was shocked when I heard her say 3.1-3.3k. She made it sound as though 15-16th month bonus is a guarantee, hence 3.3k x 15 months would meet my salary expectations of 4k x 12 months.

But like… isn’t it called a BONUS for a reason? I don’t mind her calculating my base pay by taking into consideration the 13th month AWS, but trying to calculate my base pay based on an assumed 15 month bonus (which are variables) sounds ridiculous to me…

I’m not sure if she’s just new or something because she asked me if Highest Distinction (NUS’s new term for FCH) is a second upper. Lol.

I asked if me having FCH means I’ll get a higher pay compared to my peers and she said no, it’s based on how relevant my degree is. But my degree is literally the exact degree asked for in the job description..?? Weird. She then asked me to alert her if any other company gives me an offer so that they can expedite their process so… hopefully this means I can still negotatie for higher pay :/

Anyways, I don’t think I’ll accept anything lower than 3.6k for monthly base pay, especially since they said long working hours are a given in this job :/

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Thanks for replying. Yes, I was shocked when I heard her say 3.1-3.3k. She made it sound as though 15-16th month bonus is a guarantee, hence 3.3k x 15 months would meet my salary expectations of 4k x 12 months.

But likeÖ isnít it called a BONUS for a reason? I donít mind her calculating my base pay by taking into consideration the 13th month AWS, but trying to calculate my base pay based on an assumed 15 month bonus (which are variables) sounds ridiculous to meÖ

Iím not sure if sheís just new or something because she asked me if Highest Distinction (NUSís new term for FCH) is a second upper. Lol.

I asked if me having FCH means Iíll get a higher pay compared to my peers and she said no, itís based on how relevant my degree is. But my degree is literally the exact degree asked for in the job description..?? Weird. She then asked me to alert her if any other company gives me an offer so that they can expedite their process soÖ hopefully this means I can still negotatie for higher pay :/

Anyways, I donít think Iíll accept anything lower than 3.6k for monthly base pay, especially since they said long working hours are a given in this job :/

i wish you had better real information from real public servants to make a sound decision. You may regret this 10 years later



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i wish you had better real information from real public servants to make a sound decision. You may regret this 10 years later
Exactly? I wish I had real public servants to ask too..?

Which is why I’m asking in this thread and hoping someone could tell me if this is normal
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Exactly? I wish I had real public servants to ask too..?

Which is why Iím asking in this thread and hoping someone could tell me if this is normal
I can share what I know but need a way to communicate off this forum. But caveat I can only share from my own experience.
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When is the performance bonus, mid year bonus, year end bonus and MAC bonus for engineers in LTA given?
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hello all, 40m yo here

MOH offered 8.7k for SM position. Consider average?
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When is the performance bonus, mid year bonus, year end bonus and MAC bonus for engineers in LTA given?
PB last working day of March, Year end bonus is paid together with your Dec salary, MAC is on Aug should be together with your Aug salary as well but depends. If not it will be on the last working day of Aug.
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When people here share about their monthly salaries (especially fresh grads), are you dividing the annual package into months? Or are you sharing your monthly base salary without any bonuses added?

I asked for 4k a month but was shot down by HR who said they can only offer me roughly 3.3k a month because I need to consider 3.3k x 15 months and not 12 months.

Is this normal? Or am I getting lowballed? Iím just worried future employers will take my last drawn salary as 3.3k a month?

Advise please and thanks

[NUS, FCH fresh grad, female no NS, both degree and diploma are relevant to the job, 2 internships with 1 year total experience also extremely relevant to job]
dont do it man. wtf FCH the HR so gamgong offer you 3.3? HR honestly just salty and stupid. I FCH NTU 1st job govt alrdy 5.2k, i was offered 4.2-4.5k for others.

ya if that job is not really what you like just dont do it. is a joke. HR is a joke.
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Exactly? I wish I had real public servants to ask too..?

Which is why Iím asking in this thread and hoping someone could tell me if this is normal
im the one that wrote the previous comment. When public servants tell u their monthly salary, it is the total package including bonus divided over the months. An Average performer gets around 17 month package annually, if u at LTA, an average engineer gets 18 months as they have engineer bonus. Public servants have PSD to look after them and have inflation increment, annual increment etc. Then got mid year and end year bonus. Regardless if the HR is new or experienced, they will have to use the same algorithm to calculate their offer, and submit it to their management for approval. So even if u put ur asking offer low, they may even calculate a higher amount for u.

Yes even if u are FCH, if u are female u lose out $400 as compared to male FCH due to NS. Hence in my opinion that is a reasonable offer that HR calculated for u. If u like the job scope, then think about how u can grow in terms of salary in the next 10-20 years versus if u are in the private sector, and also balance it with work life. In the private sector, bonuses are not guaranteed, growth will plateau eventually hence they use higher basic to entice people. If ur value eventually outweighs your cost, u will be let go. In the short term, it might look more attractive. But if u look at 35 , 40 yo if u have over 10 years in public service , your total earned will far outweigh most of the private sectors. Ofcos pls dont compare to the 5-10% of the private sectors.

Most of the forum commenters here are either jobless or looking to enter the public service, hence they linger here and reply u. I dont think public servants have the time to find these forums and give you advice. Public service jobs are very competitive, and if u are fresh grad, they filter out the scholars from the average performers. So if u throw away ur advantage, then the HR will not even hesitate to nego with you because there are hundreds of minons waiting to take up your role.
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