How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

MBA they usually take it at CMB level as executive MBA , aka part time

Yes reg > consultant > hod> divisional chair/deputy CMB/COO > CMB > outrotation to MOH Senior Director or executive director some place > CEO > Group CEO

But basically whether u go up or not is ordained and predestined by the powers.
Basically a combination of right scholarships. (PSC), parental heritage , capabilities, saga avoidance, luck, hardwork.

What about doing Masters in Public Health? MPH?

There’s a number of delisted medicine schools.
How Is it like for doctors?
Do they face the same stigma as lawyers from delisted uk unis?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There’s a number of docs from delisted unis.

How are they like in practice?

Medicine is different from law in the sense that QS/THE ranking doesn't matter as much, ie, a Cambridge grad wouldn't be looked upon more favourably than a NUS grad in practice as long as it is from a developed country ie SG/UK/AU/US.

This is because university rankings are weighted on metrics which don't matter in the day to day practice of medicine, where empathy, compassion, knowledge and a keen understanding of the patient's biopsychosocial and cultural nuances go a far longer way for the clinician than the school name on their MBBS degree.

Medical school not important , can work can study can already. Best can brown nose well too, surely no problem

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Medicine is different from law in the sense that QS/THE ranking doesn't matter as much, ie, a Cambridge grad wouldn't be looked upon more favourably than a NUS grad in practice as long as it is from a developed country ie SG/UK/AU/US.

This is because university rankings are weighted on metrics which don't matter in the day to day practice of medicine, where empathy, compassion, knowledge and a keen understanding of the patient's biopsychosocial and cultural nuances go a far longer way for the clinician than the school name on their MBBS degree.

Why is it different from law?

I thought Cambridge med grads have more prospects than say a local uni grad?
I see a number making it to management level positions or top surgeons etc

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I thought Cambridge med grads have more prospects than say a local uni grad?
I see a number making it to management level positions or top surgeons etc

It’s probably some level of selection bias.
People who actually get into Cambridge need to have some academic aptitude, father mother scholarship (I.e. influential / well-connected parents - who can afford at least $500,000 of school fees and living expenses?), and greater exposure to wide variety of experiences growing up.

So I think what OP was referring to, is that the brand name of the school doesn’t really matter that much on a day to day basis.
But definitely someone who has made it to Cambridge (academically and financially) would be in a much better position / will have much more resources to go further in life than say an ordinary guy

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I’m someone who’s about to enter medical school, but seeing so much negatives about the job environment and salary makes me think twice. I will be studying overseas, so I am bound to have a little more debt than the students who study locally. Honestly speaking, based on the current climate of healthcare in Singapore, I’m sure it’ll take me like 10 years to pay off my debt right? Or even more. Furthermore specialising is getting more and more competitive. I did shadow a doctor, most of the patients I saw seemed to be fine, but do local patients complain a lot?

Medical school makes the least sense financially. It is the worst decision one can make if you come from a background where you actually have to think about money.
You spend anywhere between $100,000 to $500,000 studying locally or overseas, come back working long hours that pays you less than a McDonald’s burger flipper. You burn the first 5 years studying, and the next 10 years with more studying to become a Consultant.
You can pay off your debt a little bit faster if you are fully registered (will take a few more years of work for foreign graduates), and you are daring enough to Locum after office hours.
On top of that, you have to compete for a clinical specialty of your interest.

Comparatively, friends of similar caliber who had gone down the route of finance, com science would have spent way less than you (emotionally, financially, and time) and earning way more than you.
So if you are in a situation where your family actually has to sell their house to get you through med sch, be mentally prepared for the tough road ahead.
Finances / bread and butter issues will be an additional emotional baggage on your already hectic life trying to pass your exams, try to make a difference in the lives of your patients and not kill anyone in the process.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Medical school makes the least sense financially. It is the worst decision one can make if you come from a background where you actually have to think about money.
You spend anywhere between $100,000 to $500,000 studying locally or overseas, come back working long hours that pays you less than a McDonald’s burger flipper. You burn the first 5 years studying, and the next 10 years with more studying to become a Consultant.
You can pay off your debt a little bit faster if you are fully registered (will take a few more years of work for foreign graduates), and you are daring enough to Locum after office hours.
On top of that, you have to compete for a clinical specialty of your interest.

Comparatively, friends of similar caliber who had gone down the route of finance, com science would have spent way less than you (emotionally, financially, and time) and earning way more than you.
So if you are in a situation where your family actually has to sell their house to get you through med sch, be mentally prepared for the tough road ahead.
Finances / bread and butter issues will be an additional emotional baggage on your already hectic life trying to pass your exams, try to make a difference in the lives of your patients and not kill anyone in the process.

Not true. Local medical school is highly subsidised and very generous. Most middle class family would be able to afford some sort of bursary. Those with lower income might well be able to study for free, with allowance to spare (Considering the bursary from government & from donors).

How much does fam med MMed earn?