Civil Service Pay - Director level

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I left a Stat Board many years ago for the finance industry and have been very successful. Unfortunately, I have interviewed and even hired civil servants like you who go out there with your civil service mindset, technocrat approach to problems and generally unforgiving nature. Let me tell you that it doesn't work. Except for a very small minority of quants with PhDs in physics, math and finance, being out in the finance industry is largely about EQ , while years in the civil service works to destroy that. To succeed outside, you have to think out of the box, be controversial, tell stories, be funny. Basically, forget all the training to serve your Minister well and not screw anything up. Forget about MX scales, increments and all that garbage as everything is about the next bonus. To succeed, you need an unstructured life, where you give up your friends, work 18 hours a day, fly all over the world meeting people and promoting things that you created. Its about you now, not the minister. Lastly, I find that people who leave the service before 30 are generally OK. 30-35 have trouble adapting, but many still have the energy. Over 35, they tend to be fixed in their mindset and usually don't work out.

Good advice!

Can a non-Admin Officer hit superscale in civil service? Or is superscale only for Admin Officer? Entry level superscale supposedly earns $300k p.a. - that's very high for someone who is non-Admin Officer?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can a non-Admin Officer hit superscale in civil service? Or is superscale only for Admin Officer? Entry level superscale supposedly earns $300k p.a. - that's very high for someone who is non-Admin Officer?

Job grade: MX9 (Superscale)
Job title: Deputy Director, Director
Pay scale: S$10,580 – S$14,550 / S$14,551 – S$16,540

Non-admin officer can hit superscale at MX9...

given he is a A grader with PB 3-4 mth @ MX9

annual salary = (12 + 1 + 0.5 + 0.75 + [3to4] ) x 16540 = 285K to 301K

around there....

Hi,

may I know how is STB assist director salary range like? is it lower than other stats board?
for a mid career switch from pte to public...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

may I know how is STB assist director salary range like? is it lower than other stats board?
for a mid career switch from pte to public...

8 - 11k depending on relevant experience

AD range is wide, about 6 to 11, depending on experience, but you would normally get the mid, why? say if you get 10, there is not much room to grow after a year and they will be forced to promote you? it is hard to negotiate as the range is determined by the job title... DD and D generally no diff, DD is like under observation before going to D, but some observation can be longer...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

AD range is wide, about 6 to 11, depending on experience, but you would normally get the mid, why? say if you get 10, there is not much room to grow after a year and they will be forced to promote you? it is hard to negotiate as the range is determined by the job title... DD and D generally no diff, DD is like under observation before going to D, but some observation can be longer...

6 to 11 is super low. why don't they peg to the ministers' pay?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

8 - 11k depending on relevant experience

don't think is that low, the range is wide more like 8 - 14k

Originally Posted by Unregistered

don't think is that low, the range is wide more like 8 - 14k

If Asst Director is 8 - 14k, so a Dy Director will be from 14k to what max?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If Asst Director is 8 - 14k, so a Dy Director will be from 14k to what max?

There is overlap on the salary scale from AD to DD. DD starts from 12k to 18k+