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Old 16-12-2022, 05:02 PM
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I am in corporate and I keep making careless mistakes at work as I am not detailed enough. Anyone else facing this problem?

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Mr Clarence Lun Yaodong, care to share with us which practice areas Fervent Chambers is ranked in for Chambers APAC 2023? I remember you boasting it will be ranked within 1 year of incorporation in Jan 2020.

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I am in corporate and I keep making careless mistakes at work as I am not detailed enough. Anyone else facing this problem?
Are these factual mistakes or is it your boss making the judgment?

If you have a nitpicker as your boss or if they have already marked you, then anything and everything you do can become a mistake.

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I am in corporate and I keep making careless mistakes at work as I am not detailed enough. Anyone else facing this problem?
Depends on the nature of your mistakes, how repeatedly you make these and whether they are counterbalanced by other value add you bring to the team.

As a senior, careless mistakes in my juniors are understandable but honestly quite offputting. If I can't trust your work in some aspects, especially the obvious easily caught mistakes, then how can I trust that you've gone through the other areas with diligence? If I need to check everything, it would've been faster for me (and the whole team) to hv done the work myself.

But I try to fight this natural tendency to hold it against them especially if I see consistent improvement. I understand that mistakes arise due to time pressures to turnaround work, fatigue and gaps in understanding of the process.

More importantly, if a junior assoc has consistently given quite good insights and shown to be a good reliable team player (*and this is really the hardest bit - easy to say but difficult to live up to), then the occasional mistakes can surely be overlooked.
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Depends on the nature of your mistakes, how repeatedly you make these and whether they are counterbalanced by other value add you bring to the team.

As a senior, careless mistakes in my juniors are understandable but honestly quite offputting. If I can't trust your work in some aspects, especially the obvious easily caught mistakes, then how can I trust that you've gone through the other areas with diligence? If I need to check everything, it would've been faster for me (and the whole team) to hv done the work myself.

But I try to fight this natural tendency to hold it against them especially if I see consistent improvement. I understand that mistakes arise due to time pressures to turnaround work, fatigue and gaps in understanding of the process.

More importantly, if a junior assoc has consistently given quite good insights and shown to be a good reliable team player (*and this is really the hardest bit - easy to say but difficult to live up to), then the occasional mistakes can surely be overlooked.
What’s the hallmark of a good corp lawyer?
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How else would this thread comprise of near 2k posts? Got so much to talk about salary meh? Honestly it would be so good if we could shift to Reddit to build a community of lawyers alas this industry is filled with conniving and cut throat individuals.
2k? So careless. Cut bonus liao
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Mr Clarence Lun Yaodong, care to share with us which practice areas Fervent Chambers is ranked in for Chambers APAC 2023? I remember you boasting it will be ranked within 1 year of incorporation in Jan 2020.
Form is temporary, and class is permanent. What is real will not be eroded and will emerge eventually.

At Fervent Chambers, we are building from the ground up with solid foundations. Our incremental hires are of the utmost ability and integrity, and we believe this will obtain us recognition in the market in time to come. We are already nominate in ALB and many others, so this is a matter of time for us.

To all the juniors lost in this forum, do consider us seriously.
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Old 17-12-2022, 12:37 AM
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Brits are not so boliao to argue over unis. Because sinkies are academics obsessed. But they will absolutely talk smack online about the firms you're in. Just take a gander at the Roll On Friday or Legal Cheek comment sections.

And no one cares about Malaysia. It's a second rate corrupt and racist country facing a brain drain and middle income trap. You Malaysian ah?
Singaporean. third generation. original.
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Old 17-12-2022, 06:38 AM
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So this thread has moved from overseas vs local, to Fervent bashing, and now to Dentons Rodyk bashing?
Dentons Rodyk actually had their bashing coming with their "Big 5" ******** which nobody asked for.
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Dentons Rodyk actually had their bashing coming with their "Big 5" ******** which nobody asked for.
On a platform like ST no less. Which of course self respecting law firms aspire to be on rather than chambers, legal 500 et al.
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