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Old 09-11-2014, 10:18 PM
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I applied for a manager role in a local bank. It was supposed to be a perm role. After the interview, HR called me and said "is 6500 $ pm fine with you?" I said okie. When I went to collect the written offer, the role was a 6-month contract with 6000 pm and no joining or contract-end bonus. What to do? I agreed for a different package on phone.

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Hi,
I applied for a manager role in a local bank. It was supposed to be a perm role. After the interview, HR called me and said "is 6500 $ pm fine with you?" I said okie. When I went to collect the written offer, the role was a 6-month contract with 6000 pm and no joining or contract-end bonus. What to do? I agreed for a different package on phone.
u need to expose which bank!!! hold your guns firmly and tell them no.

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Old 10-11-2014, 08:21 AM
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u need to expose which bank!!! hold your guns firmly and tell them no.
Most banks do not negotiate after making the offer. Poor Samantha. She should continue where she is, or settle for whatever this bank is offering.

Moral of the story - Make sure everything is clear before the written offer comes.

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Old 10-11-2014, 06:04 PM
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u need to expose which bank!!! hold your guns firmly and tell them no.
It does not matter which bank it is. Samantha needs to request them to revert to what had been discussed verbally. The trouble is that sometimes that HR manager has changed and there is no record of previous discussion. Good luck
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Old 12-11-2014, 04:45 PM
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Hi,
I applied for a manager role in a local bank. It was supposed to be a perm role. After the interview, HR called me and said "is 6500 $ pm fine with you?" I said okie. When I went to collect the written offer, the role was a 6-month contract with 6000 pm and no joining or contract-end bonus. What to do? I agreed for a different package on phone.
Can you prove that on phone they mentioned a regular offer but later they changed their statement? If so, you can soo them. Eitherwise, tough luck.
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Old 12-11-2014, 06:00 PM
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Companies have the right to withdraw their offer, EVEN after you have signed the offer letter. There's nothing to stop them from changing a verbal offer.

The only thing you can do, is to stay calm and do not get emotional. Use logical arguments. Remind them of their verbal promise. Tell them the market salary rate for your job.

Never get emotional or show any sign of immaturity.


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I had a similar issue with one of the employers. I walked out of the HR cabin - demanding that they meet my conditions or I will not join them. I have a job already. In 2 weeks these blokes called me and asked me to sign an offer on modified conditions.
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Hi, I am interested in becoming a security guard. Could I find out how much does it pay, and what are the career prospects. Possble to get head of security in 5 years.?

Thanks for your help!!!
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Hi, I am interested in becoming a security guard. Could I find out how much does it pay, and what are the career prospects. Possble to get head of security in 5 years.?

Thanks for your help!!!
career progression for your reference:
Security Analyst (fresh grad) - $8k
Security Associate 1 - (MBA hire) $9.2k
Security Associate 2 - $10k
Senior Security Guard - $11k
Assistant Security Manager - $12k
Security Manager - $13k
Senior Security Manager - $14k
Associate Security Director - upwards of $20k
Security Director - upwards of $25k
Partner - upwards of $30k
Head of Security

sorry not possible in 5 years.


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career progression for your reference:
Security Analyst (fresh grad) - $8k
Security Associate 1 - (MBA hire) $9.2k
Security Associate 2 - $10k
Senior Security Guard - $11k
Assistant Security Manager - $12k
Security Manager - $13k
Senior Security Manager - $14k
Associate Security Director - upwards of $20k
Security Director - upwards of $25k
Partner - upwards of $30k
Head of Security

sorry not possible in 5 years.
Ok thanks for the detailed info!! I had no idea the security sector paid so well! If I want to join as Security Associate 1, Do they recognize distance learning MBA or must I get a MBA from NUS/NTU/SMU?
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