SIM-RMIT fresh grad starting pay

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your pay hike from 2013 to 2014 is 60%, your father's company ?

hi bro, fyi it is not my dad's company. It comprise of night shift allowance.
cheers

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi bro, fyi it is not my dad's company. It comprise of night shift allowance.
cheers

Security guard ah?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Security guard ah?

Correct .

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Security guard ah?

securities dealer

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not putting down SIM grads or what, but your exp is living proof that local grads esp those with FCH or 2UP have a significant advantage. It took you 5 years to get to a level where a strong local u grad would have gotten on his first day of work in either CS or MNCs grad program.

Sure as your career progress, your school gets less and less important, but having a good school and doing well acadmeically does give one a 5 year headstart. That is quite a lot of ground to give up.

So the underlying message is if you are from a private uni, work hard not all is lost. But best way if possible is still to study hard and get a good deg, it gives you tremendous advantage you might not realise until much later.

I find many discussions these days polarised with 2 sides not giving each other enough credit. The local uni guys tend to act elitist look down on pte uni ppl as inferior and forever losers. The pte uni guys tend to brush away the huge advantage a good local uni deg confer while constantly citing exceptional cases of "streetsmart" people who have exceeded local uni.

*** the question i have for all this pte uni ppl who keep saying deg & school not important, companies just want streetsmart, network, value add etc, is why then do u even bother to get a pte uni deg?

if things are really as simple as u all say, just know the right people & work hard, why not u all just stick with ur diploma or ite cert? afterall base on this kind of logic, nobody care abt ur school & cert few years into the job rite?

someone even gave 4 super generic pts:

1) value add to the organisation
2) bring in sales
3) retain customers
4) Know the right people (Including bosses) - This one
literally throw all u have studied out of the window.

for non-technical jobs, the 4 pts look like even a N level can do it if he wants to, why study for anything beyond then?

because deep in our hearts we all know that statistically speaking the better the cert/school, the better the career prospects. even if we know that sometimes a psle dropout can do better in life than a phd, we acknowldge these are and will always be exceptions. ***



Somewhat agree with the 2 comments made above. I myself am from RMIT. I believe some jobs really do require a degree. To cut it short, I believe we need to be open-minded. That's the most important thing, respect that each (local and pte) have our strong points.

And throw out the stereotype that local = booksmart and not streetsmart and
pte = streetsmart and not booksmart. there are ppl out there who can be both.

Anw, i would like to post a question actually lol... what is the job function of treasury sales like? when i read the job requirements i feel like giving it a try. Like those kinda fx, money market manager roles.

Thanks in advance! Feel free to give me comments about what i said, I'll gladly engage in a discussion with you!

it's interesting to see how people respond;
anyways my input

RMIT-BBAcc (2010), took on the FP&A road instead of banking/audits

2010 Q4 - 2k (US MNC "A" Contract, no finance work experience)
2011 Q1 - 2.5k (US MNC "A" Contract, performance increase)
2011 Q3 - 3.2k (US MNC "A" Perm)
2012 - 3.5k (US MNC "A" Perm, increment)
2013 - 3.8k (US MNC "A" Perm, increment)
2014 Q2 - 4.8k (US MNC "A" Perm, 20+% increment, boss leaving so give present)
2015 Q1 - 5.6k (US MNC "B", Perm, job change)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

it's interesting to see how people respond;
anyways my input

RMIT-BBAcc (2010), took on the FP&A road instead of banking/audits

2010 Q4 - 2k (US MNC "A" Contract, no finance work experience)
2011 Q1 - 2.5k (US MNC "A" Contract, performance increase)
2011 Q3 - 3.2k (US MNC "A" Perm)
2012 - 3.5k (US MNC "A" Perm, increment)
2013 - 3.8k (US MNC "A" Perm, increment)
2014 Q2 - 4.8k (US MNC "A" Perm, 20+% increment, boss leaving so give present)
2015 Q1 - 5.6k (US MNC "B", Perm, job change)

looks good, but annual package will paint a better picture.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

*** the question i have for all this pte uni ppl who keep saying deg & school not important, companies just want streetsmart, network, value add etc, is why then do u even bother to get a pte uni deg?

if things are really as simple as u all say, just know the right people & work hard, why not u all just stick with ur diploma or ite cert? afterall base on this kind of logic, nobody care abt ur school & cert few years into the job rite?

someone even gave 4 super generic pts:

1) value add to the organisation
2) bring in sales
3) retain customers
4) Know the right people (Including bosses) - This one
literally throw all u have studied out of the window.

for non-technical jobs, the 4 pts look like even a N level can do it if he wants to, why study for anything beyond then?

because deep in our hearts we all know that statistically speaking the better the cert/school, the better the career prospects. even if we know that sometimes a psle dropout can do better in life than a phd, we acknowldge these are and will always be exceptions. ***



Somewhat agree with the 2 comments made above. I myself am from RMIT. I believe some jobs really do require a degree. To cut it short, I believe we need to be open-minded. That's the most important thing, respect that each (local and pte) have our strong points.

And throw out the stereotype that local = booksmart and not streetsmart and
pte = streetsmart and not booksmart. there are ppl out there who can be both.

Anw, i would like to post a question actually lol... what is the job function of treasury sales like? when i read the job requirements i feel like giving it a try. Like those kinda fx, money market manager roles.

Thanks in advance! Feel free to give me comments about what i said, I'll gladly engage in a discussion with you!

treasury sales is a role that you will not find sim people in it. FO IB roles do not hire from sim simply because it is a technical job. pls don't tell me DBS/UOB FO selling credit cards.

the syllabus and standard that sim subjects its students too are and never will be equivalent to the other schools. for example, sim has to moderate the bell curve upwards to help its students pass, despite the lax marking standard, whereas nus marks the students down to prevent a glut of FCH. by the way, in nus, one is benchmarked against the best in his cohort, and FTs from around the world. in sim, one is benchmarked against working adults who have no time to study or people who cant qualify for the local schools.

pls find me someone who can truthfully put his hand to his heart and say he rejected nus for sim. street smart? don't be naïve. tell that guy whos driving a c class, earning 10k a month at a major IB fo position who has a degree from nus that hes not street smart.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

treasury sales is a role that you will not find sim people in it. FO IB roles do not hire from sim simply because it is a technical job. pls don't tell me DBS/UOB FO selling credit cards.

the syllabus and standard that sim subjects its students too are and never will be equivalent to the other schools. for example, sim has to moderate the bell curve upwards to help its students pass, despite the lax marking standard, whereas nus marks the students down to prevent a glut of FCH. by the way, in nus, one is benchmarked against the best in his cohort, and FTs from around the world. in sim, one is benchmarked against working adults who have no time to study or people who cant qualify for the local schools.

pls find me someone who can truthfully put his hand to his heart and say he rejected nus for sim. street smart? don't be naïve. tell that guy whos driving a c class, earning 10k a month at a major IB fo position who has a degree from nus that hes not street smart.

Hi,

thanks for ur response. Actually i wasnt talking abt "DBS/UOB FO selling credit cards".

yea true abt the subjects nvr being equivalent to other schools. but i dont think theres even a bell curve in sim (i may be wrong).

And whats this about a guy rejecting nus for sim? i dont rmb talking abt such a thing? lol, ure like going off point there. And yea, i know there are street smart ppl from nus, i acknowledged that.

anw...so are u saying treasury sales is definitely out for sim? even if its a second or third job? whats a typical day like in treasury sales?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

treasury sales is a role that you will not find sim people in it. FO IB roles do not hire from sim simply because it is a technical job. pls don't tell me DBS/UOB FO selling credit cards.

the syllabus and standard that sim subjects its students too are and never will be equivalent to the other schools. for example, sim has to moderate the bell curve upwards to help its students pass, despite the lax marking standard, whereas nus marks the students down to prevent a glut of FCH. by the way, in nus, one is benchmarked against the best in his cohort, and FTs from around the world. in sim, one is benchmarked against working adults who have no time to study or people who cant qualify for the local schools.

pls find me someone who can truthfully put his hand to his heart and say he rejected nus for sim. street smart? don't be naïve. tell that guy whos driving a c class, earning 10k a month at a major IB fo position who has a degree from nus that hes not street smart.

i nvr quite understand why the sims so defensive everytime anyone say sim inferior to the local uni. i mean all the local uni ppl also acknowledge they inferior to the oxbrdige/ havard type, if u tell a smu that he will loose out to a stamford grad when going for top banking job, he/she will just llst admit it & move on. not like the sims here get emo, talk nonsense about being street smart, spin sotry about some make it big sim who "defeat" the rest etc.