Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

many of my mid-career teacher friends earn easily 8k base excluding bonus. around mid-30s.

How can your so called many mid career teacher friends be earning 8k base, where an ordinary teacher max out at $8250 for Geo 5. The highest possible before the inception of Geo 5a.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ask the Sch leaders whether you can have day off since you are working during protected break? I recall in saf, if you are required to work on non-working days like weekends, you get day off in as a compensation.

All teachers will be chuckling at this suggestion.

I'm sure many teachers have already lost count of the number of entitled "off days" they have forfeited due to the sheer difficulty of claiming them.

Other sectors, even other ministries and stat boards - definitely no problems with claiming off days lol. This is a rare problem that probably only exists in this ministry

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The Chui lawyer actually earn less than Geo 5

And teachers work is meaningful


My gp tutor was a lawyer. Then she found it meaningless
So came and taught gp. I respect her greatly

Teachers salary quite decent lah
Same as the rest of non scholar civil service

Starting 4plus, mid career 6plus, hentak kaki ar 8plus
Other stat board also same

You tell school janitor u earn 6plus , they say u rich
Cannot compare

Most importantly, teachers' job is lifetime tenure. Very very hard to sack, as compared to lawyer, banker or other industry. Even C- grader or D grader can be "rescued" if improvement is shown. If compared to private sector, no such support is given to under-performing staff.

For ordinary teachers who are average performers, and also aged 40 and above, their salaries are likely to be in 7K range or max out at 8K. No company in the private sector will afford this kind of salary for average performer, let alone guarantee lifetime employment.

And to be honest, teachers' skillsets are pretty generic, so can't compare to the hotter jobs like data analysts, software engineers etc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most importantly, teachers' job is lifetime tenure. Very very hard to sack, as compared to lawyer, banker or other industry. Even C- grader or D grader can be "rescued" if improvement is shown. If compared to private sector, no such support is given to under-performing staff.

For ordinary teachers who are average performers, and also aged 40 and above, their salaries are likely to be in 7K range or max out at 8K. No company in the private sector will afford this kind of salary for average performer, let alone guarantee lifetime employment.

And to be honest, teachers' skillsets are pretty generic, so can't compare to the hotter jobs like data analysts, software engineers etc.

and this is also the exact reason why there is a progression delay due to the clog of excess people in their 50s getting "rescued" again and again

huge disadvantage to the younger ones who joined late

Originally Posted by Unregistered

By mid 30s, a male teacher would have been in service for 10 years, reached GEO4 and drawing 6k+ salary. Everyone knows that the civil service pays less while being more stable job wise.

What's the issue? That the civil service should be on par or exceed the private sector? We all know that Singapore society will be in uproar if that happens. So blame your fellow Singaporeans.

a male teacher in service for 10 years with an above-average performance would easily reach GEO5 with 8k salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

All teachers will be chuckling at this suggestion.

I'm sure many teachers have already lost count of the number of entitled "off days" they have forfeited due to the sheer difficulty of claiming them.

Other sectors, even other ministries and stat boards - definitely no problems with claiming off days lol. This is a rare problem that probably only exists in this ministry

Don’t think so much, just take the day off and prepare relief work for your classes. Teachers’ well being is important to ensure positive student outcomes. A teacher who is burnt out is unlikely to bring out the best in his/her students.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don’t think so much, just take the day off and prepare relief work for your classes. Teachers’ well being is important to ensure positive student outcomes. A teacher who is burnt out is unlikely to bring out the best in his/her students.

lol? the reporting officer and principal will refuse and might even blacklist you. teachers arent allowed to claim off days during normal curriculum periods.

i suppose you arent a teacher in the first place? damn joker sia hahaha.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Aug 2023 launch Tengah 4rm flat: 350k (without grant). After grant confirm will be lower. Teacher couple at age 30, you can dare say that they won't have a comfortable income to apply for 4 room bto at Tengah?

Cherrypicking again

So if people live in the east side, school in west side, parents (and future caretakers of children) live east side, all must uproot and move to tengah?

Ive got two friends who're of the same age as me (35 yo)

Female, SH (Math) in a pri sch
educated at NUS and masters in a renowned UK uni

Male, LH in a pri sch
educated in local unis

how much would each of them be earning? significant difference or not really?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol compare to banks biotech. Why not compare to lawyers and doctors also?

Because banks, biotech hire from the same pool of graduates as moe?

How many law and medical sch grads sign on as teachers?

On the other hand, there are plenty of accountancy, business, chemistry, biomed, engineers joining teaching.

Recruitment is quite stringent, and those who get in typically have good honours. They could have joined their respective industries in the private sector if they wished to.