Can i hold 2 job? Advise needed. - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Can i hold 2 job? Advise needed.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 08:56 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 1
TanMH is on a distinguished road
Default Can i hold 2 job? Advise needed.

My employer found out that i started my new part time job, when i was on leave, during my termination notice period.
Now they refuse to pay my salary...
Do employer have the right for not paying me because i did not inform them of my new part time job
?
When the new permanent part time job opportunities come, i just accept it without checking with my employer.
My employment letter did not mention that i cant hold another job.

Any expert can advise?

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 09:57 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

seriously why dont you call MOM instead of seeking advice here

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 10:41 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Even if employer letter did not mention cannot hold another job, under law you are bound by duty of loyalty to your employer and cannot take another job without employer's consent.

They would have the right to terminate you, but you should still be able to receive salary less any discretionary component/benefits which they can forfeit. Threaten a dispute with MOM and firms will **** bricks.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 12:51 PM
DJC DJC is offline
Verified Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 10
DJC is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TanMH View Post
My employer found out that i started my new part time job, when i was on leave, during my termination notice period.
Now they refuse to pay my salary...
Do employer have the right for not paying me because i did not inform them of my new part time job
?
When the new permanent part time job opportunities come, i just accept it without checking with my employer.
My employment letter did not mention that i cant hold another job.

Any expert can advise?
What's the reason for termination? Did they terminate you rather than opting for retrenchment to save costs?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 12:52 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If contract nv say cannot hold secondary job, u can hold.

Civil service and army cannot.
In fact u go to jail in army if u have a secondary job


SG Bus Timing App
SG Bus Timing App - the best bus app - available on iOS and Android


SGX Stocks Android App - check share prices
SGX Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks for iPad - check latest Singapore share prices
SGX Stocks [iPad] app
| SGX Stocks [iPhone] app
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 01:09 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Government jobs or military career, you cannot hold secondary appointment/jobs.

For private sector, it depends. It goes two ways:

a. The secondary job employment is not a client of your primary employment. Therefore, no conflict of interest.

b. The secondary job employment is a client of your primary employment. So cannot. Conflict of interest.

Otherwise, no issue.

Your employer still has to pay for the time of your work commitment with them. If they hold their payroll due to your secondary appointment, please report to MOM. You must be paid accordingly to the work hours you committed with them.
Reply With Quote

  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 03:54 PM
Super Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 171
sinkingfeeling is on a distinguished road
Default

It may be omitted from employment letter because it's common sense

Either that or it's in the employee handbook

A lot of rules and regs at my previous coy mentioned in handbook only, not in employment letter


SG Bus Timing App
SG Bus Timing App - the best bus app - available on iOS and Android


SGX Stocks Android App - check share prices
SGX Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks for iPad - check latest Singapore share prices
SGX Stocks [iPad] app
| SGX Stocks [iPhone] app
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 10:06 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinkingfeeling View Post
It may be omitted from employment letter because it's common sense

Either that or it's in the employee handbook

A lot of rules and regs at my previous coy mentioned in handbook only, not in employment letter
This message is not intended as legal advice, and should not be construed as such. Speak to a lawyer or MOM.

That being said, legally speaking that's generally not true, moonlighting is only illegal in the civil sectors (to prevent conflicts of interest), otherwise, you are bound by contractual terms (no contract term preventing moonlighting in a second job means that you can).

The terms in the employment handbook are not enforceable, unless the employment contract mentioned that the other standard terms of employment are found in the handbook (and/or are incorporated into the contract). Furthermore, alongside the contractual incorporation, they also generally have to have provided you those terms (by providing you the handbook) prior to signing (or it was at least available upon request - whether you read it is another thing entirely).

You have a good case to seek the payment of your salary (if the contract does not ban moonlighting) and should consult MOM or free employment mediation agencies (TADM/ECT for example). Do not accept any offers of partial payment prior to seeking advice from MOM or a lawyer.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2020, 10:11 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Even if employer letter did not mention cannot hold another job, under law you are bound by duty of loyalty to your employer and cannot take another job without employer's consent.

They would have the right to terminate you, but you should still be able to receive salary less any discretionary component/benefits which they can forfeit. Threaten a dispute with MOM and firms will **** bricks.
The duty of loyalty is not exactly accurate - it's more of a duty of fidelity. Ergo, while you need to work diligently, honestly, loyally for the company, you just need to show that your work did not affect your work with the company, and that there is no conflicts of interest between your other company and the current company. So unless they have proof that you slacked off to do work for your other company, or that you worked for a "competitor", they have no valid reason to hold your payment. In any case, given that the employee was on leave, during his notice period, it will be hard for the company to prove that the implied duty was breached.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 13-05-2020, 11:23 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
The duty of loyalty is not exactly accurate - it's more of a duty of fidelity. Ergo, while you need to work diligently, honestly, loyally for the company, you just need to show that your work did not affect your work with the company, and that there is no conflicts of interest between your other company and the current company. So unless they have proof that you slacked off to do work for your other company, or that you worked for a "competitor", they have no valid reason to hold your payment. In any case, given that the employee was on leave, during his notice period, it will be hard for the company to prove that the implied duty was breached.
Lol bright eyed bushy tailed law student/fresh law grad spotted.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
offer put on hold? (public sector) mangos47 Income and Jobs 41 11-03-2018 02:39 AM
Advise needed. Stuck on career path helpadviseneeded Income and Jobs 28 25-08-2017 12:54 PM
Advise Needed for Bioengineering grad Gan_Do Income and Jobs 33 19-06-2017 06:28 PM
URGENT advise needed :( Ms.mocha Income and Jobs 16 20-12-2016 09:57 PM
(advise needed) Training bond and contract signing flixonase Income and Jobs 7 24-03-2011 12:16 AM

» 30 Recent Threads
OCBC Graduate Talent Programme... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
361 Replies, 125,014 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
10,896 Replies, 6,027,229 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,956 Replies, 1,812,349 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,046 Replies, 281,419 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,460 Replies, 2,049,684 Views
How much are you earning per annum? ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
12,094 Replies, 3,884,957 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,665 Replies, 1,369,884 Views
HSBC Graduate Programme 2021 ( 1 2 3)
24 Replies, 2,928 Views
Standard Chartered International... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
54 Replies, 56,722 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,051 Replies, 833,831 Views
Mid-Year Civil Servant Bonus 2020 ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
155 Replies, 36,444 Views
Bunker trader ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
47 Replies, 24,303 Views
How much does a typical FP&A... ( 1 2 3)
24 Replies, 2,222 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,515 Replies, 1,003,481 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,800 Replies, 1,179,765 Views
Engineer Pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
146 Replies, 54,474 Views
Civil Service Bonus 2020 Year End
2 Replies, 339 Views
DBS tech seed programme ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
161 Replies, 17,127 Views
Any advice for a final year...
3 Replies, 3,532 Views
Advice for a troubled Designer ( 1 2)
13 Replies, 4,812 Views
Insurance Management Associate... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
63 Replies, 20,673 Views
GovTech Tech Associate Program... ( 1 2)
16 Replies, 3,892 Views
anyone work as trainer with...
3 Replies, 2,087 Views
Exxon Mobil Equipment tech or... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,786 Replies, 533,747 Views
Job offer from Apple ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
492 Replies, 108,502 Views
Business / System Analyst
1 Replies, 1,077 Views
MAS : Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
234 Replies, 145,609 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 01:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2