MAS for Mid Career Professionals

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Glad to see many people say their honest views here. I guess is because very hard to say them at work. The lambs are constantly silenced.

Few are ever fully lamb or wolf. Wolf can appear to be innocent lamb and lamb can become wolfish if needed.

Those willing to listen and act on staff feedback are not the ones who need to change as they are already good. The ones who really need to change are usually not willing to listen, instead preferring to tell themselves it’s just a small group of unhappy employees, hiding behind anonymous, don’t dare to say in real life, already doing so much changes and still complaining, only know how to complain but never provide solution, and so on. But guess what will happen to those who complain in real life?

Nothing is really anonymous, so try to keep any views here balanced so as not to fall into their trap, be ready to give example if anyone ask IRL.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Glad to see many people say their honest views here. I guess is because very hard to say them at work. The lambs are constantly silenced.

Hahha, cannot say them lah, they get very defensive.. only those who have worked w them will really uds hw it feels.. mgmt knows but kept silenced too because dont want to get themselves into too much political conflicts.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hahha, cannot say them lah, they get very defensive.. only those who have worked w them will really uds hw it feels.. mgmt knows but kept silenced too because dont want to get themselves into too much political conflicts.

When I join mas no one told me got office politicking. If only I know earlier. One of the bosses will even say, only those who are too I free will politicise everything. True? False?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Few are ever fully lamb or wolf. Wolf can appear to be innocent lamb and lamb can become wolfish if needed.

Those willing to listen and act on staff feedback are not the ones who need to change as they are already good. The ones who really need to change are usually not willing to listen, instead preferring to tell themselves it’s just a small group of unhappy employees, hiding behind anonymous, don’t dare to say in real life, already doing so much changes and still complaining, only know how to complain but never provide solution, and so on. But guess what will happen to those who complain in real life?

Nothing is really anonymous, so try to keep any views here balanced so as not to fall into their trap, be ready to give example if anyone ask IRL.

But guess what will happen to those who complain in real life? -> So you are saying ppl cannot complain in real life la? Sounds like a threat. Isn't this then lambs lor? Just shut up , suffer in silence and suck it up. Anyway, it seems that you are referring to bosses. If you are one that is of the 3rd category, then I think you are that of the worst kind: Don't care what I can do to you, obey me or die.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When I join mas no one told me got office politicking. If only I know earlier. One of the bosses will even say, only those who are too I free will politicise everything. True? False?

No office politics? which planet sia?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your 12.5k/mth is base or annual package? What's your specialisation and yoe?

Base. Usually 2-4 months of bonus

In the finance department

Originally Posted by Unregistered

But guess what will happen to those who complain in real life? -> So you are saying ppl cannot complain in real life la? Sounds like a threat. Isn't this then lambs lor? Just shut up , suffer in silence and suck it up. Anyway, it seems that you are referring to bosses. If you are one that is of the 3rd category, then I think you are that of the worst kind: Don't care what I can do to you, obey me or die.

Don’t really understand this comment, what’s the third category?

Well have you seen people complain irl, that is put their name to a complaint, and are they still doing well in the office? If they are, good for them!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Base. Usually 2-4 months of bonus

In the finance department

Wah. MAS bonus is abt 2-2.5 plus minus for average performers. Can accept bo? The higher your grade the harder you have to farm to be above average. These days many DDs around, some depts may have more DDs than ADs. Why not spend your 30s making more money in the industry, when looking to retire than come here do project, write report, get your work corrected over and over again before can send out!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don’t really understand this comment, what’s the third category?

Well have you seen people complain irl, that is put their name to a complaint, and are they still doing well in the office? If they are, good for them!

If you are smart enough and read it carefully, you will understand what's the 3rd .

People do complain in office, but yeah boss wasn't around, so I guess they are still doing well!

(Anyway, whatever the talk is, I guess your point is, upstairs can do whatever they want to downstairs and even if it's wrong, downstairs cannot complain but have to suck it up. Ok, got ya)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

People do complain in office, but yeah boss wasn't around, so I guess they are still doing well!

You are right, there are also those that gossip and complain about boss on Skype, next thing you know they are helping those same bosses pass message or playing football together. Next level skill, they deserve to do well!