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Old 14-02-2011, 10:23 AM
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To add to my earlier post, CEP is what your bosses think you're capable of achieving at a certain age. It is not based on one's class of honours, or O or A level results (but of course, nothing is to stop a boss from holding the myopic view that grades reflect one's potential).

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CEP is based on your potential, hence its term "Current Estimated POTENTIAL".

You may perform very well in your job, but if your CEP is low, you're not going to get promoted any time soon. This is something I don't understand. How is potential assessed if not through one's performance?
What I personally think would be :

Supposed A is a very good engineer/economist... very strong technical skills... however his organizational/leadership skills r poor... his performance as an engineer/economist will be high but his CEP is limited he might not be suitable for management positions.

Supposed B is also an engineer/economist and his technical skills r not bad but not excellent , however he has strong organizational/leadership skills can see big picture, his performance as an engineer might not be as high as A (as shown by quality of work) however his CEP might be high as his boss would think he suitable for mgmt.

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Does anyone know how the CEP in the civil service is calculated? I am currently feeling discouraged now, because I got 9 points for O levels, 6 As for A levels and only a 2nd lower for uni. So is my CEP based just on 2nd lower? Does my previous good result for O and A levels taken into account of? Thanks,
Its very hard to change your CEP once you are in unless somehow, you are really very much better than all of your peers. In the Civil Service, 2nd Lower is not considered good honors so that's why your CEP will be lower.

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Its very hard to change your CEP once you are in unless somehow, you are really very much better than all of your peers. In the Civil Service, 2nd Lower is not considered good honors so that's why your CEP will be lower.
if you have 2nd lower and you have job offers from the private sector, do you self a favour and don't go into civil service.
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why is that? Is the CEP associated with 2nd lower really that bad?


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the thing abt the civil service hiring is that the main factor of consideration is honour's classification... that's also the criteria they use to differentiate starting pay (the difference is $100-150) and scheme of service...
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why is that? Is the CEP associated with 2nd lower really that bad?
It's bad compared to those who got better than 2nd lower, of course.


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I thought for 2nd lower or upper, the starting CEP is an MX10? Of course CEP changes as you work, if you have a higher calibre, it will be raised.
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I thought for 2nd lower or upper, the starting CEP is an MX10? Of course CEP changes as you work, if you have a higher calibre, it will be raised.
i thought everybody who is fresh grad go in as MX13?
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This Current Estimate Potential (CEP) system is a totally flawed concept. How can a superior estimate the potential of a subordinate whose potential is higher than his own? How can a person see a vision higher than his own? How can a toad appreciate the size of a whale?

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