How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

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How does the pay compare for all these institutions?
OPS, CH, Hospital FMCC

Thanks!

The same pay

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

The same pay

What’s the pay range for FM AC and C?
Is it easier to be promoted to C in CH and FMCC?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How does the pay compare for all these institutions?
OPS, CH, Hospital FMCC

Thanks!

suprise suprise.
polyclinc actually pay better.
but u have clinic everyday. very draining one.
polyclinic actually get 60 to 80 bucks for each chronic patient u see depending on how complex.
so one full time equivalent is 45 patient , u earn the clinic 2.4 to 3.2k and that translate into a fatter salary package.
community hospital is u incharge of a ward of 30 to 40 patient.
see till 10am shag Liao can go drink kop then continue at 11pm. today cannot settle tml then do.
overall same same over a 30 year career...u not gonna make surgeon or cardiologist money for sure.
buy hdb not problem, buy condo can la but no landed and certainly no gcb

Just wondering how does one cope mentally when they see people around them all leaving the system for private?
Currently a FM resident just completed most of my hospital rotations , now mainly left with ops postings for last year. (Currently in ops)

5 of my batchmates from FM left, some my co mo in IM, GS, and o&g(friends that I made during hospital posting) also left residency recently.
Personally I am keen to complete residency since I only have slightly more than 1 year left. (Turning r3 in July).

But I feeling increasingly lonely, also not sure if I am making the right decision in staying and will it be too late for me to leave next year (i.e will there still be jobs left outside?)

Some people say ops is better than gp land as you work as a team and can learn from your peers. Personally so far in my posting I don't seem to feel so. Although I am in a teamlet, we actually run our own individual queue. I come at 8am see pts till 130pm (morning usually over extended) have quick lunch, then see pts from 2 to 5pm. I leave at 5 -530pm once done. I hardly talk to other people (doctors, care coordinator, nurse manager) in my teamlet.
Lunchtime teaching is 1-2x/week but I usually zoom in from my clinic room. Only person I spoke to in my ops is the hod who gave me an orientation when I first came.

Just like gpland it feels very much on your own, and I actually miss the times in IM/GS where although hours are longer, you can chit chat with people I your team and have lunch together)

Sry for the rant guys but I don't know, I am feeling increasingly depressed and Sian. Maybe a break from medicine altogether might be Good..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just wondering how does one cope mentally when they see people around them all leaving the system for private?
Currently a FM resident just completed most of my hospital rotations , now mainly left with ops postings for last year. (Currently in ops)

5 of my batchmates from FM left, some my co mo in IM, GS, and o&g(friends that I made during hospital posting) also left residency recently.
Personally I am keen to complete residency since I only have slightly more than 1 year left. (Turning r3 in July).

But I feeling increasingly lonely, also not sure if I am making the right decision in staying and will it be too late for me to leave next year (i.e will there still be jobs left outside?)

Some people say ops is better than gp land as you work as a team and can learn from your peers. Personally so far in my posting I don't seem to feel so. Although I am in a teamlet, we actually run our own individual queue. I come at 8am see pts till 130pm (morning usually over extended) have quick lunch, then see pts from 2 to 5pm. I leave at 5 -530pm once done. I hardly talk to other people (doctors, care coordinator, nurse manager) in my teamlet.
Lunchtime teaching is 1-2x/week but I usually zoom in from my clinic room. Only person I spoke to in my ops is the hod who gave me an orientation when I first came.

Just like gpland it feels very much on your own, and I actually miss the times in IM/GS where although hours are longer, you can chit chat with people I your team and have lunch together)

Sry for the rant guys but I don't know, I am feeling increasingly depressed and Sian. Maybe a break from medicine altogether might be Good..

You are not suited for GP type work. Sit in room see 70 to 80 patients kpkb all day.
It will be no different if you go pte
I guess you didnt do IM or GS cos of calls which you dont like
So lan lan. Medicine not for u

Hi all. I am here looking for advice. I am finishing my mohh bond soon and then intend to quit for a few years and explore other options. But currently I am still conditional reg … is it a good move to quit ? Any ideas what c reg doctor can do ?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi all. I am here looking for advice. I am finishing my mohh bond soon and then intend to quit for a few years and explore other options. But currently I am still conditional reg … is it a good move to quit ? Any ideas what c reg doctor can do ?

Yes quit la. You lucky still onli c reg. When you full reg then your fate is sealed man. Get out while you can. Give up medicine and never look back. Be property agent. 2% commission minimum. One simple condo is at least 1m. Sell it get $20k. One year you cannot sell 10 condos? If sell more expensive properties even better can go up to 5%. 5m property 5% comm you get $250k just from that one property. You still want to be dr? Dont waste your time and talent.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just wondering how does one cope mentally when they see people around them all leaving the system for private?
Currently a FM resident just completed most of my hospital rotations , now mainly left with ops postings for last year. (Currently in ops)

5 of my batchmates from FM left, some my co mo in IM, GS, and o&g(friends that I made during hospital posting) also left residency recently.
Personally I am keen to complete residency since I only have slightly more than 1 year left. (Turning r3 in July).

But I feeling increasingly lonely, also not sure if I am making the right decision in staying and will it be too late for me to leave next year (i.e will there still be jobs left outside?)

Some people say ops is better than gp land as you work as a team and can learn from your peers. Personally so far in my posting I don't seem to feel so. Although I am in a teamlet, we actually run our own individual queue. I come at 8am see pts till 130pm (morning usually over extended) have quick lunch, then see pts from 2 to 5pm. I leave at 5 -530pm once done. I hardly talk to other people (doctors, care coordinator, nurse manager) in my teamlet.
Lunchtime teaching is 1-2x/week but I usually zoom in from my clinic room. Only person I spoke to in my ops is the hod who gave me an orientation when I first came.

Just like gpland it feels very much on your own, and I actually miss the times in IM/GS where although hours are longer, you can chit chat with people I your team and have lunch together)

Sry for the rant guys but I don't know, I am feeling increasingly depressed and Sian. Maybe a break from medicine altogether might be Good..

as someone said , private gp land longer hours that is more lonesome. gp land not the perfect cup of tea. for many pple it's a escape or a no where else to go route.

I actually don't prefer to fraternise too much and eat my lunch alone .
collegiality takes time to built up but u get there once u settle into a particular ops.

if u feel like u at a breaking point, ask pd for a 6 months break la. they usually quite sympathetic.
u can try community hospital work but u need more tenacity becuase pat are more complex but u can work at your own pace , go for u lunch etc.

don't quit. we all went thru what u are going thru. the world is better when u finish ur m.med.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

as someone said , private gp land longer hours that is more lonesome. gp land not the perfect cup of tea. for many pple it's a escape or a no where else to go route.

I actually don't prefer to fraternise too much and eat my lunch alone .
collegiality takes time to built up but u get there once u settle into a particular ops.

if u feel like u at a breaking point, ask pd for a 6 months break la. they usually quite sympathetic.
u can try community hospital work but u need more tenacity becuase pat are more complex but u can work at your own pace , go for u lunch etc.

don't quit. we all went thru what u are going thru. the world is better when u finish ur m.med.

Dont talk rubbish and give bad advice lah.
If everyone dont leave all stay then all finish got MMed then got even more competition right? How OPS gonna pay big salary to everyone?

Need some to leave lah. All stay means even worse for those who stay.

Best advice is to leave and go be property agent. Learn to trade stocks. Then locum a bit during beginning to make ends meet. When see success as prop agent or stocks booming then can quit medicine altogether.