Civil Service Merit Increment 2012

[Bean]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Me also from STE, on my 5th year already had 2 promotions and pay crosses 4.1K.

my friend also from STE, also 5 years exp by july2012, also 2 promotion, got his M1 in 2011 july..and constantly B grader for 5 years, estimate salary after july increment = $4275...his starting is 2.9k in 2007 with 2nd lower....


How about you?
also 2nd lower??
always B grader??

I am always a C grader, even if i got promoted 2x to reach M1, my salary by this july will be only $3982 >>>no good!!

How % increment will a C grade people get at MX12??

Thanks

Originally Posted by Bean

you mean when you 1st join the ministry since fresh degree grad, you are being offer as a MX12??? not MX13??

Do you have any previous working exp?

Yes I have working exp before joining.

Originally Posted by Bean

my friend also from STE, also 5 years exp by july2012, also 2 promotion, got his M1 in 2011 july..and constantly B grader for 5 years, estimate salary after july increment = $4275...his starting is 2.9k in 2007 with 2nd lower....


How about you?
also 2nd lower??
always B grader??

I am always a C grader, even if i got promoted 2x to reach M1, my salary by this july will be only $3982 >>>no good!!

Me not even 2nd lower, after the initial it is all about your performance. Speak to your supervisor and ask what you need to do to get the next better grade and go ahead to do it. If you have acheive the agreed objective and perfromance set, then there is no reason for not getting the better grade (except others are even better than you).
So identify your "competition" and do better, unless it is limited by your abilities. Either expand your comfort zone or be content. Given the share option and now cash plan not that bad lah.

And serving work while at work.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And serving work while at work.

I meant "stop surfing web while at work".

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Me not even 2nd lower, after the initial it is all about your performance. Speak to your supervisor and ask what you need to do to get the next better grade and go ahead to do it. If you have acheive the agreed objective and perfromance set, then there is no reason for not getting the better grade (except others are even better than you).
So identify your "competition" and do better, unless it is limited by your abilities. Either expand your comfort zone or be content. Given the share option and now cash plan not that bad lah.

Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if STE is really that "stingy" they would have lost all good ppl to agencies like DSTA, A*star, mindef, MHA etc, given their "close relationships" with these agencies. Now, I understand what keep them in STE. Btw, there can never be cash or share options in government sector.

Originally Posted by cslee

Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if STE is really that "stingy" they would have lost all good ppl to agencies like DSTA, A*star, mindef, MHA etc, given their "close relationships" with these agencies. Now, I understand what keep them in STE. Btw, there can never be cash or share options in government sector.

The good ones are usually rewarded well, the not so good also don't get into the agency you mentioned. So make good use of the opportunity to learn somethings, frankly STE is a good platform for you to learn diff skill set as it has certain "freedom" at the job and opporunity to try out diff aspect of the job.
Sometime learning need not be directly teach, learn from the side when you have the chance to see and observed more senior staff handling customers and project. Ask after the event and usually they are willing to share why they do or say some stuff. From this experiences choose and pick the style you wanted and those you don't but learnt to handle them as these are very likely the situation you will meet later on in life.

Originally Posted by cslee

Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if STE is really that "stingy" they would have lost all good ppl to agencies like DSTA, A*star, mindef, MHA etc, given their "close relationships" with these agencies. Now, I understand what keep them in STE. Btw, there can never be cash or share options in government sector.

Regarding share option:

Yes all staff after 1 year with this company can buy shares using 10% of their salary, the company will top up another 50% of the 10% you contribute to buy shares on monthly basis.

you will receive dividends as the company release dividends info in SGX.

all staff of the rank of senior engineer and below got the above shares scheme..

all those rank above senior engineer will get another type of scheme, but kind of fug up, need to wait for after 3 years to get the free shares given to you 3 years ago....is like delayed.....

Heard from my father that the old scheme is better, ie , you are give like few lots of shares to buy in at a maybe 30-50% discounted rate...

Exxon mobil also got similar scheme but not shares, they top up their salary 5% cash incentive similar like that...

Compare to MOE teacher, DXO....they also got like vesting scheme for them, like every 4 years they are entitled few K of lump sum to them, SAVER scheme to SAF officer, Retirement scheme to Senior police officer...etc....

i finally break 5k this year

grad in 2009