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Old 15-05-2023, 10:41 AM
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Don’t think it’s even possible to start doing less. The message all comes right from from PS and Minister. With so many changes every few years and not setting the stage right on what to do with so many priorities, it’s gonna get heavier and heavier



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Tight labour market is true. But we cannot expect to have our cake and eat it. If we are short of teachers, we cannot expect to do more and more and more every year while maintaining or increasing standards. We have to right-size education based on staffing constraints. If the Education Service is 30k strong we cannot behave as if we are 50k strong. Then you get teachers working 80-90 hours per week including take-home work. It's ridiculous.

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Don’t think it’s even possible to start doing less. The message all comes right from from PS and Minister. With so many changes every few years and not setting the stage right on what to do with so many priorities, it’s gonna get heavier and heavier
Yup. If everything is top priority, then everything is equal priority, and the plate just gets heavier and heavier over time as every new political office holder or top management introduces their own pet project and makes it top priority.

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Tight labour market is true. But we cannot expect to have our cake and eat it. If we are short of teachers, we cannot expect to do more and more and more every year while maintaining or increasing standards. We have to right-size education based on staffing constraints. If the Education Service is 30k strong we cannot behave as if we are 50k strong. Then you get teachers working 80-90 hours per week including take-home work. It's ridiculous.
Very well said.

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Old 16-05-2023, 07:09 AM
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they do, but it’s not even moe who decides.
it’s a very tight labour market.
govt will not allocate more teachers
So how? Need to vote wisely?
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How do we give feedback to change? Really feel suffocated to work in such a stupid system but I like to help young students.


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How do we give feedback to change? Really feel suffocated to work in such a stupid system but I like to help young students.
There's only mcare or resignation.

Since when is feedback from the bottom ever listened to?
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There's only mcare or resignation.

Since when is feedback from the bottom ever listened to?
Resigning next week
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Does anyone knows how long does a non-scholar KP takes to progress from GEO 5 to SEO 1? And from SEO 1 to 2?
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Old 17-05-2023, 06:57 PM
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The rest of the civil service, as well as the MXOs in MOE, have switched to it. Under this system, officers are only given CEP (termed LP in other ministries) if they are assessed to have leadership potential. If not, they won't have. As for when it will roll out to Edun Service, and bits and pieces of info, do a search on MOE Intranet. Not so good to vomit out too many details here.

It's not necessarily good. In the past, your CEP more or less determined your rate of promotion. Now, promotion rates are already a complete toss up, with some people staying as GEO3 for only 1.5 years, and others for 8 years. Without CEP, it will become even more unpredictable.
well, some questions raised during townhall did reveal some juicy stuff, but most things still led to vague template answers

still interesting nevertheless
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well, some questions raised during townhall did reveal some juicy stuff, but most things still led to vague template answers

still interesting nevertheless
Care to share some snippets?
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