Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

2017 GEO2, joined service
2018 C
2019 Promoted to GEO 3, B
2020 B
2021 B
2022 B, int SH
2023 B, int SH

Still not promoted to GEO 4. Female PGDE. Can someone explain why.
Maybe my CEP is low…

Not sure…..
I was in GEO 3 for 2y only
But stuck in Geo 4 for 8years.
Maybe really slowing down for newer teachers

But people around my batch / time ALL Geo 4/5 - really will be stuck for the next 10years since I think SEO is even harder to get??? 😥

Originally Posted by Unregistered

OP here.

I was very disappointed when I realised that despite all the hard work, I am still a B grader. To make things worse, I am still stuck at GEO3. Given all the Bs over the years, I am still not promoted. Wondering if a change of environment will help. Or should I just step down and be a HOT instead.

Jiayou.
Sorry no advice. Internal SH has no additional responsibility allowance too (I think).
So I guess the so called ‘rule’ of promotion after 3 Bs isn’t true…

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you spend enough time on the ground, you should know that the real difference comes from hours spent directly interacting with students. All too often, many teachers chasing large scale projects for career progression do not do justice to their own students.

Honestly I’m not even chasing projects but kena arrived and I’m the people pleaser type. Drowning under projects and ‘admin’ like tracking numbers, tallying & collating data for external programmmes, rams, forms to purchase things, all the prep work for school events (slides, training, documentation), PD ‘projects’ for the school (reading, slides, sharing).



I’d spending much less time focusing on editing my teaching resources etc. I’m so torn. I am confident of my teaching abilities and skills so I know my students can still learn but if I can’t keep up with the other ‘projects’ other colleagues will be affected, not just me. Exhausted.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Whats e CEP benchmark for FHQ posting? Any idea?

Hello. What’s FHQ? I saw this mentioned a few times.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hello. What’s FHQ? I saw this mentioned a few times.

Facilitated HQ posting. In short, "invited" to do a HQ stint, which is often offered to those with good CEP at the earlier part of their career.

That was during my time, but I noted a preference for SEO officers as well at the later part of my stint, perhaps due to fewer posts for SEOs in school as well due to sch mergers. HQ will have more flexibility to take in SEOs for jobs.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure…..
I was in GEO 3 for 2y only
But stuck in Geo 4 for 8years.
Maybe really slowing down for newer teachers

But people around my batch / time ALL Geo 4/5 - really will be stuck for the next 10years since I think SEO is even harder to get??? 😥

Could be a CEP issue, so I think it is good to check on a few things:

Have a conversation with your RO on CEP. Good work doesn't equate to good CEP. Personally, I have a JH I wish to groom and the SLs acknowledge that he teaches well and handles projects well, but he has terrible decorum (always complaining about the extra work, say things without thinking and not befitting for MM).

Must understand that if your CEP is SEO1, that means you are expected to reach there before retirement (maybe a few years before). That means your GEO5 may come in your late 30s to early 40s.

GEO5A is also a difficult grade to get, as this grade is reserved for high performing HOTs that already reached their salary cap. If you haven't reach the salary cap, you are not eligible yet. If you have potential to get to SEO1, then it is best that you get promoted from GEO5.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do note that the current Salary range for 5A is $5650 - $9050

If that's true, that's pretty good!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There has never been an 800k bto. The max was 737k. And that is BEFORE subsidies. This all boils down to expectations. Should a teacher couple 2-3 years working really think that they're in a position to get a new flat in a premium area? Too atas to stay in a normal area like the rest of peasants is it.

[s://.straitstimes.com/singapore/housing/strong-demand-for-5-room-bto-flats-in-ang-mo-kio-despite-prices-of-up-to-877k[/

If you grew up in mature area, your parents in mature area, and your school also in mature area (because close to your parents' house), you want to move far far away to ulu areas like tengah? And end up not having grandparents to help out with taking care of kids?

Think something is wrong when hdb heartlands areas like TPY, AMK, Bedok are considered atas areas. And even after working around 5 years, maybe hit 5k. Will still find it tough to afford a flat meant for first timers. And how long do you expect couples to save up before buying such flats? 10 years? And what about family planning? Got factor in the 5 year construction time?

And it is very sad to see such sentiments that HDB flats are atas, when they are public housing for commoners.

If they are atas, then what about ECs, private condos, and landed?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly I’m not even chasing projects but kena arrived and I’m the people pleaser type. Drowning under projects and ‘admin’ like tracking numbers, tallying & collating data for external programmmes, rams, forms to purchase things, all the prep work for school events (slides, training, documentation), PD ‘projects’ for the school (reading, slides, sharing).

I’d spending much less time focusing on editing my teaching resources etc. I’m so torn. I am confident of my teaching abilities and skills so I know my students can still learn but if I can’t keep up with the other ‘projects’ other colleagues will be affected, not just me. Exhausted.

Machiam full time administrator, part time teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Jiayou.
Sorry no advice. Internal SH has no additional responsibility allowance too (I think).
So I guess the so called ‘rule’ of promotion after 3 Bs isn’t true…

depends on cep