Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

All the talk about scholar vs non-scholars made me realise that some are rally disillusioned. I am a farmer, consistent A and B since the day I joined the school more than a decade ago, and I can safely tell you that paths of scholars are mapped out, and because of that, perf grades and cep are also ingeniously crafted to ensure that they are accelerated on their path to take on SLship or high leadership roles in HQ. They do not even need to assume the role of hod to move up to VP, simply appearing and disappearing between schools and HQ and somehow they are magically transformed into one ready for higher appointments.

While I consistently performed well in school and have tried out every single possible roles that brought about school/cluster/national impact, promotion came much slower. Cep… ultimately still basing it on paper qualification. Discussion about SLship was met with smokescreen, since many SLs themselves do not have good capabilities to develop people. A number of my friends (hod from different schools) face similar predicament. Career hod…what can we do?

I agree with you about the scholars. Many people here say that "oh during ranking KPs will be fair", but that's not always the same across all schools.

However, your batch was already quite lucky to have made it to HOD levels. If you look at the younger officers, their chances are now even slimmer, especially for non scholars. In fact, it's hard to even get CONSISTENT A and B grades for non scholars.

Originally Posted by enjayell

Unfortunately as previous posters have said, opportunities do depend on school manageable or your RO. Otherwise really need to find your own opportunities. Can always change school to find better opportunities.

I disagree however with dissing and discounting the value of sharings.

As for creation of quality teaching materials, yes perhaps that's sufficient impact for GEO2 & GEO3s, but for GEO4s & GEO5s its assumed to be done.

despite what u and many posters have mentioned, its not so easy to be able to "can always change school to find better opportunities"

i know of people who have been trying for years to transfer out simply coz of location, but fail everytime due to "excess headcount". also know of people who kena blocked from transferring or leaving coz school got shortage.

unless u are saying, be despo enough to change to whatever dumping ground is available e.g. random closed posting or do cross level deployment all the way till kindergarten

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I agree with you about the scholars. Many people here say that "oh during ranking KPs will be fair", but that's not always the same across all schools.

However, your batch was already quite lucky to have made it to HOD levels. If you look at the younger officers, their chances are now even slimmer, especially for non scholars. In fact, it's hard to even get CONSISTENT A and B grades for non scholars.

Yes, totally not easy these days. I know of a high performing psc scholar. 3rd posting, SH confirmed, but HOD Int now. Gone are the days when people, scholar or not, can just jump straight to HOD after a couple of years as a BT

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes, totally not easy these days. I know of a high performing psc scholar. 3rd posting, SH confirmed, but HOD Int now. Gone are the days when people, scholar or not, can just jump straight to HOD after a couple of years as a BT

This is probably the fastest rate of promotion for males these days already.
Year 1 to 2 - school
Year 3 to 4 - hq (Get geo4 in 4th year)
Year 5 to 6 - SH
Year 7 - HOD Int

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is probably the fastest rate of promotion for males these days already.
Year 1 to 2 - school
Year 3 to 4 - hq (Get geo4 in 4th year)
Year 5 to 6 - SH
Year 7 - HOD Int

if this is only for high performing psc, then that's like what, less than 3% of a cohort? gosh

the rest maybe need twice or thrice the amount of time? wait for 15-20 years huh

Originally Posted by Unregistered

despite what u and many posters have mentioned, its not so easy to be able to "can always change school to find better opportunities"

i know of people who have been trying for years to transfer out simply coz of location, but fail everytime due to "excess headcount". also know of people who kena blocked from transferring or leaving coz school got shortage.

unless u are saying, be despo enough to change to whatever dumping ground is available e.g. random closed posting or do cross level deployment all the way till kindergarten

Open posting is fair. You cannot be blocked from leaving if you clear the interview. Only closed posting can be “blocked”. Don’t believe, ask HR.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

if this is only for high performing psc, then that's like what, less than 3% of a cohort? gosh

the rest maybe need twice or thrice the amount of time? wait for 15-20 years huh

Even PSC scholar also need to be GEO4 to be an appointed SH LOL. By this calculation, even GEO4 by year 4 is probably considered the fastest. Also take note that this is probably for PSC scholars (education). Those with dual ministry or admin track of course will be rotated to other ministries.

Well other regular farmers could enjoy an equally fast rate of promotion if opportunies happen to rise in the school (e.g. you’re a 2 year old SH when your HOD decides to leave)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Even PSC scholar also need to be GEO4 to be an appointed SH LOL. By this calculation, even GEO4 by year 4 is probably considered the fastest. Also take note that this is probably for PSC scholars (education). Those with dual ministry or admin track of course will be rotated to other ministries.

Well other regular farmers could enjoy an equally fast rate of promotion if opportunies happen to rise in the school (e.g. you’re a 2 year old SH when your HOD decides to leave)

My school had a teaching award holder get GEO4 in year 4 (NSman). It's not exclusive to PSC scholars.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

if this is only for high performing psc, then that's like what, less than 3% of a cohort? gosh

the rest maybe need twice or thrice the amount of time? wait for 15-20 years huh

Not true, friend of mine is a farmer with Dip Ed cert, no degree qualification
year 4: GEO 4
year 5: SH GEO5
year 7: HOD
Year 9: SEO1

Originally Posted by Unregistered

if this is only for high performing psc, then that's like what, less than 3% of a cohort? gosh

the rest maybe need twice or thrice the amount of time? wait for 15-20 years huh

Given that default CEP for teachers is GEO5, 15-20 years is not unlikely.