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26-06-2023, 10:17 AM
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It is definitely possible as he might be the outlier maybe in the top 1% of Diploma holder with 10 yrs experience earning that annual income.
Fro age 30-34, excluding employer CPF contribution, the median salary for diploma qualification is $3750 which equal to $45k annual income
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I am the poster door post 577
Actually I accidentally saw my friend's pay slip and I was quite shock.
He's only a dip holder with more than 10 years experience. I checked this website annual pay comparison and it shows it is in the top quarter. So I wonder since dip can make that amt, how much will deg make?
Last edited by Moderator; 30-06-2023 at 12:42 PM.
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26-06-2023, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
I am the poster door post 577
Actually I accidentally saw my friend's pay slip and I was quite shock.
He's only a dip holder with more than 10 years experience. I checked this website annual pay comparison and it shows it is in the top quarter. So I wonder since dip can make that amt, how much will deg make?
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Sorry I sua ku, dk what is csb. Can anyone enlighten please.
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26-06-2023, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
I am the poster door post 577
Actually I accidentally saw my friend's pay slip and I was quite shock.
He's only a dip holder with more than 10 years experience. I checked this website annual pay comparison and it shows it is in the top quarter. So I wonder since dip can make that amt, how much will deg make?
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Excluding Employer CPF, for Age 30-34, Gross Monthly Salary (Total Annual Package include bonus and allowance / 12 months)
Post Secondary (non-Tertiary) - $3,000
Diploma - $3,750
Degree - $6,000
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28-06-2023, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Wow... are diploma holders in singapore so incompetent?
3750×12=45k annually only.
Degree got 6k×12=72k annually.
Do we have a system to pay them differently just because of the degree?
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I believe you need to ask all companies hiring policies.
Anyway, if you just do a job search, it is not difficult to find those high paying jobs require higher education and experience. If you do not have at least a degree, it is a disadvantage.
Anyway you can access to this Singapore income data from MOM website. It is published and shared in MOM website
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30-06-2023, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
I believe you need to ask all companies hiring policies.
Anyway, if you just do a job search, it is not difficult to find those high paying jobs require higher education and experience. If you do not have at least a degree, it is a disadvantage.
Anyway you can access to this Singapore income data from MOM website. It is published and shared in MOM website
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Hi I'm OP from post 577
I asked my friend finally how he get that type of salary.
He mentioned about creating value and having a degree is not creating value, it is meant to have more knowledge so it helps you creating value.
The ultimate is still about creating value. His mindset really different from many dip i met. Even more married than many deg holders.
Just some background of him, more than 10 years work experience all in MNC, dip in mechatronics, staff engineer in US MNC semiconductor ind. I think he going for dept manager position soon. Then his pay will go up again.
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30-06-2023, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi I'm OP from post 577
I asked my friend finally how he get that type of salary.
He mentioned about creating value and having a degree is not creating value, it is meant to have more knowledge so it helps you creating value.
The ultimate is still about creating value. His mindset really different from many dip i met. Even more married than many deg holders.
Just some background of him, more than 10 years work experience all in MNC, dip in mechatronics, staff engineer in US MNC semiconductor ind. I think he going for dept manager position soon. Then his pay will go up again.
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Actually, if you understand the median salary of diploma and degree holders of $3,750 and $6,000 respectively at age 30-34 years old, you will know having a degree holds an advantage over those without. Your friend is just the minority.
There are many fresh graduates already earning more than $4,000 in their first job. Probably if he has the right attitude and also hardworking to get a degree, he might already a manager 5 years ago.
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30-06-2023, 11:53 AM
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Hi all experienced engineers, is it a good place to start your career after bachelor's studies at firms like Jacobs/AECOM/Arup etc.. in terms of learning opportunities and future career pathways?
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01-07-2023, 09:22 PM
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Hi all experienced engineers, is it a good place to start your career after bachelor's studies at firms like Jacobs/AECOM/Arup etc.. in terms of learning opportunities and future career pathways?
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I will say if consulting role gives a good pay why not.
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02-07-2023, 02:26 AM
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Hi all experienced engineers, is it a good place to start your career after bachelor's studies at firms like Jacobs/AECOM/Arup etc.. in terms of learning opportunities and future career pathways?
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Different consultant firms have different strong points. Example, ARUP and AECOM are strong in civil / structure but very very weak in M&E. DSCO are very established in data centres.
So I would suggest u find out what discipline does the organisation has a good reputation in, and see if that is where u are aiming to join.
Otherwise, consultants in general nowadays are pretty **** across the board... they just want to hire people to tank work and not train them.
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