University college Dublin(Kaplan)

If people can fly to overseas top-tier uni like Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Oxford, etc. It means they are able to compete to get into very difficult to get into universities. So they must be having some special quality, like exam smart or top scores.

And because these tier1 universities are not cheap, the students must have $$$, or they have family members that can take the student loan for them. We are talking about a HDB house loan amount for a bachelor degree!!!

So such a top tier graduate will already be financially better off than a student from the low income family, even before getting the degree.

If Kaplan is unrecognized then why are they still so establish? They should have close down long ago right if you're trying to say Kaplan's degree cert ain't recognize at all. They I suggest everyone in Singapore hire the NUS or NTU students.

Even they have NUS or NTU cert but that doesn't mean they are smart when comes to work. A person who can really study that doesn't mean he/she is good in working or knowing what he/she is doing at all. It's all base on skills my dear.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

If Kaplan is unrecognized then why are they still so establish? They should have close down long ago right if you're trying to say Kaplan's degree cert ain't recognize at all.

Argumentum ad populum fallacy.

if smoking is so bad, why are there still so many people smoking?
if eating fast food is so bad, why is mcdonalds so popular?

just because something hasn't "closed down long ago", doesn't have any bearing to it quality. it might just mean they are very good at marketing and/or there are many people who are not so concerned about rankings/quality/etc...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Even they have NUS or NTU cert but that doesn't mean they are smart when comes to work. A person who can really study that doesn't mean he/she is good in working or knowing what he/she is doing at all.

try telling that to the singapore civil service.

1) Kaplan around because there is a sizable pool of adult learners who did not get a chance to study in NUS/NTU.

2) No one can disagree with you if you say that NUS/NTU graduates do not automatically mean that they are superior. But in general, it is true. No doubt about it

Most importantly, no point arguing here. U should realise how the society works....Local graduates are much better. Period.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If Kaplan is unrecognized then why are they still so establish? They should have close down long ago right if you're trying to say Kaplan's degree cert ain't recognize at all. They I suggest everyone in Singapore hire the NUS or NTU students.

Even they have NUS or NTU cert but that doesn't mean they are smart when comes to work. A person who can really study that doesn't mean he/she is good in working or knowing what he/she is doing at all. It's all base on skills my dear.

distance learning degree just as good?

Better wake up your idea.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I used to work in a ministry where my work was to evaluate people coming in with overseas/distance learning degrees.

There are three reasons why civil service and stat boards do not appreciate overseas/distance learning degrees:

1. Protectionism - local graduates must have jobs. The government cannot control who the private sector hire but they definitely can control who the civil service and stat boards hire.

2. Protectionism 2 - the civil service and stat boards are filled with local graduates, and when they are asked to hire someone, who do you think they will hire? Someone who graduated from a familiar local university or someone who graduated from an unfamiliar overseas university?

3. Lack of understanding of overseas education system - unlike Singapore which aims to have only 25% university graduates, and hence the small number of universities, first world countries' philosophy is educate their people to their fullest potential. Hence they have a lot of universities. Not every university can be Harvard or MIT. There are first tier, second tier universities and so on.

There is no department in the civil service to evaluate these overseas universities and tell the ministries and stat boards which are good and which are bad. The decisions are left to the HR department of each ministry and stat board. Some HR kiasi and thus reject all overseas/distance learning degrees to play safe. Moreover, their directive is to hire local graduates, so why waste time on researching overseas universities? Some HR is more open minded or had done their research on overseas universities. It is because of this that we always read about different experiences encountered by overseas / distance learning graduates at different government employers.

In the private sector, aka the real world, your performance is more important. If you can't perform during the probation period, you will asked to leave, local graduate or not.

So my advice to people who can't get into local universities is not to hear from the naysayers. If you can afford it, go overseas for your degree. If you can't, a distance learning degree is just as good. What's more important is the knowledge you learn from it and how to apply it in your career. If your aim is just to pass and get a paper certificate, then no university can help you. Lastly do your research on the foreign university, whether it is a first tier university in their home country.

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how is this ?

Kaplan although maybe a private institute in Singapore, their degree is sufficient for those working adults who have to commit to both work and studies. Some employers find employees that could juggle work and study more effective than those who study full time locally and start working after graduation. It all depends on the employer and more importantly what you do and say during your interview for that job. Be grateful that you are employed with a job, there are many out there without one.