GovTech

Originally Posted by Unregistered

on the flip side, many of the best engineers don't want to be converted to perm also

anyway, contract has a better deal than perm

like what? job security?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actually how you all know HQ ones have it better? Tiagong from who?

Well the fact that SVC has very high attrition rate, and GDS/SIOT/DSAI attrition still quite okay, with close to 1/8-1/9 of GDS having promotions last cycle, is quite telling isn't it

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actually how you all know HQ ones have it better? Tiagong from who?

I know someone work in HQ, even Ministry staff (non GT) also know the facts that HQ better pay & progression.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure whether it is uniformly true, but generally, those engineering divisions (GDS, SIOT, DSAI, etc) have it better than the rest of GovTech - better than not just SVC, but also the minority of engineers who directly report to non-engineering divisions (product management divisions for example).

What to do, GovTech's founding bedrocks are the precursors of GDS and DSAI, whilst the precursor to SVC is just the legacy burden that GovTech has to carry forward from IDA

Are product managers valued at GovTech? Or better to be engineer?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are product managers valued at GovTech? Or better to be engineer?

Better to be engineer - but caveat - only in the engineering divisions (this also includes infra engineering)

Being an engineer in non-engineering divisions or SVC will be kind of sad story

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Better to be engineer - but caveat - only in the engineering divisions (this also includes infra engineering)

Being an engineer in non-engineering divisions or SVC will be kind of sad story

This is very sad indeed, hopefully things will change soon.

Hope for the best and observe for 2yrs.

GDS , CSG and GIG which one better for prospect since 3 are engineering

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure whether it is uniformly true, but generally, those engineering divisions (GDS, SIOT, DSAI, etc) have it better than the rest of GovTech - better than not just SVC, but also the minority of engineers who directly report to non-engineering divisions (product management divisions for example).

What to do, GovTech's founding bedrocks are the precursors of GDS and DSAI, whilst the precursor to SVC is just the legacy burden that GovTech has to carry forward from IDA

Actually is still supply and demand as those cap centers are a division by themselves and SVC is one huge big ass division…
GDS, SIOT, GIG, CSG, DSAID < 1000, Having said that all of them combined not even a half of SVC

Every division have a slots for promotion hence we will see the illusion of more promotion by them and also the bulk of them are of junior grade (D,E,F) where else SVC majority (G,H,I)

The higher you go, the harder to promote…

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure whether it is uniformly true, but generally, those engineering divisions (GDS, SIOT, DSAI, etc) have it better than the rest of GovTech - better than not just SVC, but also the minority of engineers who directly report to non-engineering divisions (product management divisions for example).

What to do, GovTech's founding bedrocks are the precursors of GDS and DSAI, whilst the precursor to SVC is just the legacy burden that GovTech has to carry forward from IDA

I also wanna clarify, without the ex IDA SVC folks, there won’t be any cap center
… it takes two hands to clap mind u

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I also wanna clarify, without the ex IDA SVC folks, there won’t be any cap center
… it takes two hands to clap mind u

What cap center is this? Why there wouldn’t be any cap center?