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it's been said many times that MIs are not given out in % terms, but rather, based on relatively fixed absolute quantums

for e.g., if 2 MX12 officers, one on $4k and the other on $4.5k, both get a 'B' rating, we can expect both of them to receive very similar MIs (say ~$300). Therefore, the $4.5k chap will receive a smaller increment in % terms.

hi, anyone knows how the promotional increment is calculated? apparently, my promotional increment is lower than my annual increment. is the promotional increment tag to CEP or is it a fixed quantum sum or dependant on the yrs of svc?
thks much!

Originally Posted by juventusfc27

forgot to ask this question...

what's the oldest age u guys experienced that govt service accepts for MX for fresh degree holders?

Have seen people in their early 30s still joining as MX12. I think if you can accept the more junior pay and position, age should not be an issue in most cases.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

it's been said many times that MIs are not given out in % terms, but rather, based on relatively fixed absolute quantums

for e.g., if 2 MX12 officers, one on $4k and the other on $4.5k, both get a 'B' rating, we can expect both of them to receive very similar MIs (say ~$300). Therefore, the $4.5k chap will receive a smaller increment in % terms.

Not accurate. MI for MX10 onwards is in %.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi, anyone knows how the promotional increment is calculated? apparently, my promotional increment is lower than my annual increment. is the promotional increment tag to CEP or is it a fixed quantum sum or dependant on the yrs of svc?
thks much!

PI is fixed based on which grade you promo to. (i.e. MX 12 to 11 PI is universal) However do take note that there is a 'hard cap' on the % of PI + MI that can be granted so there is still some variance there.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

it's been said many times that MIs are not given out in % terms, but rather, based on relatively fixed absolute quantums

for e.g., if 2 MX12 officers, one on $4k and the other on $4.5k, both get a 'B' rating, we can expect both of them to receive very similar MIs (say ~$300). Therefore, the $4.5k chap will receive a smaller increment in % terms.

Can somebody pls enlightened me on tis? Wat is the meaning of fixed absolute quantums?(sorri if i am dumb,but dun really understand)

Reason i asking is because, i noe of 2 mx 12 officers both getting ard the same pay,both gt B,but one guy gt extra 200 in increment.....i was wondering if its because of CEP? Because the guy who gt more increment was a 2nd upper, vs the other guy a 3rd class.....

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can somebody pls enlightened me on tis? Wat is the meaning of fixed absolute quantums?(sorri if i am dumb,but dun really understand)

Reason i asking is because, i noe of 2 mx 12 officers both getting ard the same pay,both gt B,but one guy gt extra 200 in increment.....i was wondering if its because of CEP? Because the guy who gt more increment was a 2nd upper, vs the other guy a 3rd class.....

Very hard to tell - just by 1 year of MI. Long and short, you should try to observe the boss likes who more.

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

that is because we have worked hard and we expect more. especially when this includes promotion, which is very hard to come by

For most MX officers who rank from MX13 - MX9 during 35-40 year career, you can calculate how long would a promotion normally take. So, a promotion year is like a windfall year that only happens nearly once in a decade for most.

Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I find it quite disturbing that you (and many others) think 14.4% is a bad increment!

This is really making me think that civil servants are really out of touch with reality, and are a money-grubbing, self-serving bunch!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

that is because we have worked hard and we expect more. especially when this includes promotion, which is very hard to come by

got to agree with the original poster. the govt's usual stance is that CS salary must be pegged to pte sector to remain competitive, but i really wonder who they are pegging to.

i have worked in a Fortune 500 MNC with crappy 1-3% increments with an average B/C rating. have also worked in a GLC at about 3-7% for a B/C. only in banking will you get something like 10-15% for a B rating.

if you think about it it really is in the interest of the paper pushing, policy making scholars to come up with inflated salaries and increments while all the while insisting that this is what people in the market it earning.

bullocks.

Is anyone able to share the MI for MX10? Say, for B/C graders.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

got to agree with the original poster. the govt's usual stance is that CS salary must be pegged to pte sector to remain competitive, but i really wonder who they are pegging to.

i have worked in a Fortune 500 MNC with crappy 1-3% increments with an average B/C rating. have also worked in a GLC at about 3-7% for a B/C. only in banking will you get something like 10-15% for a B rating.

if you think about it it really is in the interest of the paper pushing, policy making scholars to come up with inflated salaries and increments while all the while insisting that this is what people in the market it earning.

bullocks.

To be fair, policy work is not as simple as what people make them out to be - writing paper. Alot of research, inputs, and data goes into crafting out a brand new policy or even to review existing ones. You'll be surprised at the wide range of areas that needs to be covered just to craft one policy out, even though it appears relatively straightforward.

Remember, at the end of the day, it is still the biggest head out there that directs the direction, approve or disapprove the policy. So while people in the pte sector are puzzled as to why CS salary must be pegged to pte to remain competitive, the reason is because you really need to attract the smart ones (to have both breadth and depth) to join and stay in CS. And I daresay the red-tape and culture in CS can be worse than in pte, a culture not all can adapt and survive.

Without generous MIs, there is little incentive to excel, cos once emplaced it's very hard to get fired.C is the default, almost no Ds, comparatively few Bs. So for the vast majority, it's hard work just to move from C to B. Many don't make the effort after 35.