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Old 07-02-2015, 12:11 AM
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Default pb payout in end march 2015

is the upcoming pb payout based on calendar year 2014 or financial year 2014?
seeking clarifications as i joined the government sector in the middle of 2014, hence the proration will make a difference

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is the upcoming pb payout based on calendar year 2014 or financial year 2014?
seeking clarifications as i joined the government sector in the middle of 2014, hence the proration will make a difference
it's based on calendar year

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Old 12-02-2015, 12:17 AM
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Anyone can extract the Civil Service Salary Scale for 2014?

I am currently a poly lecturer going to embark on the new ECG secondment to MOE and was told that after the 4 year stint I will be drawing a MX11 pay. Currently my pay is about $6.5k. I just need to know how much damage i need to take as i have a feeling it will be lesser.

Urgent help please :-)

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Anyone can extract the Civil Service Salary Scale for 2014?

I am currently a poly lecturer going to embark on the new ECG secondment to MOE and was told that after the 4 year stint I will be drawing a MX11 pay. Currently my pay is about $6.5k. I just need to know how much damage i need to take as i have a feeling it will be lesser.

Urgent help please :-)
MX11 is equal to lower end of PAX4.
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Anyone can extract the Civil Service Salary Scale for 2014?

I am currently a poly lecturer going to embark on the new ECG secondment to MOE and was told that after the 4 year stint I will be drawing a MX11 pay. Currently my pay is about $6.5k. I just need to know how much damage i need to take as i have a feeling it will be lesser.

Urgent help please :-)
What is your age? Did they say mx11 or mx11a?

Since it's a secondment, why is there a need for them to talk about the MX scheme since you would be heading back to poly lecturing after the 4-year stint?
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Anyone can extract the Civil Service Salary Scale for 2014?

I am currently a poly lecturer going to embark on the new ECG secondment to MOE and was told that after the 4 year stint I will be drawing a MX11 pay. Currently my pay is about $6.5k. I just need to know how much damage i need to take as i have a feeling it will be lesser.

Urgent help please :-)
ECG is education and career guidance? Do you have counselling experience or qualifications?

I tried applying for this position couple of weeks ago, but didn't get a reply, wondering how to boost my chances next time.
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Is it possible that a stats board have vacancies but do not have money to hire first class hons grad?

I am expecting to grad with a fch, have relevant internship experience in both private and public sector. I even won some competition which is relevant to the position. I am also getting shortlisted for positions from other ministries/sb even though I am not directly trained in those area.

However, this particular sb which is directly related to what I am studying (the position requires specialize knowledge) simply refuse to shortlist me. This is also the case for one of my friend who is expecting a first class hons as well. On the other hand, some of the second upper from my cohort are getting shortlisted.

So im suspecting the sb is too poor to hire fch. Could this really be the case? Or are there any other criterias that HR look at apart from academic qualification, internship exp and competitions? I don't think CCA is a factor as the HR manager told me they are not important since they are looking for people with the technical skills.
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Is it possible that a stats board have vacancies but do not have money to hire first class hons grad?

I am expecting to grad with a fch, have relevant internship experience in both private and public sector. I even won some competition which is relevant to the position. I am also getting shortlisted for positions from other ministries/sb even though I am not directly trained in those area.

However, this particular sb which is directly related to what I am studying (the position requires specialize knowledge) simply refuse to shortlist me. This is also the case for one of my friend who is expecting a first class hons as well. On the other hand, some of the second upper from my cohort are getting shortlisted.

So im suspecting the sb is too poor to hire fch. Could this really be the case? Or are there any other criterias that HR look at apart from academic qualification, internship exp and competitions? I don't think CCA is a factor as the HR manager told me they are not important since they are looking for people with the technical skills.
Hmm maybe that particular head of the dept is looking for an all-rounder? You may have the grades and internship experience but it does not necessarily translates to soft skills which are equally important as well, like interpersonal communications, high EQ level, working well in a team, cultivating relationships with stakeholders, how you handle problematic issues, etc. Usually first class honors grads have the intelligence but lack wisdom in life. On the contrary, second upper grads may not be as smart as you, but has "experienced" life outside the classroom, and thus they are much wiser because of their many life experiences. Unfortunately, it's really wisdom that gets you far in life, intelligence not so much.

Does HR manager's opinion even matter that much? It's not even HR who ultimately decides the candidate, unless you are applying to the dept. HR simply just serve as an advisor to the hiring manager, giving their input to help the manager choose the best candidate. In the end it is up to the hiring manager to decide for themselves what kind of candidates they are looking for.
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Hmm maybe that particular head of the dept is looking for an all-rounder? You may have the grades and internship experience but it does not necessarily translates to soft skills which are equally important as well, like interpersonal communications, high EQ level, working well in a team, cultivating relationships with stakeholders, how you handle problematic issues, etc. Usually first class honors grads have the intelligence but lack wisdom in life. On the contrary, second upper grads may not be as smart as you, but has "experienced" life outside the classroom, and thus they are much wiser because of their many life experiences. Unfortunately, it's really wisdom that gets you far in life, intelligence not so much.

Does HR manager's opinion even matter that much? It's not even HR who ultimately decides the candidate, unless you are applying to the dept. HR simply just serve as an advisor to the hiring manager, giving their input to help the manager choose the best candidate. In the end it is up to the hiring manager to decide for themselves what kind of candidates they are looking for.
How can the hr or whoever shortlisting the applicants be able to tell all the boded part from a single piece of paper? Ain't those qualities assessed during the interview? Or did they simply assume people with good grades has low EQ?
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Is it possible that a stats board have vacancies but do not have money to hire first class hons grad?

I am expecting to grad with a fch, have relevant internship experience in both private and public sector. I even won some competition which is relevant to the position. I am also getting shortlisted for positions from other ministries/sb even though I am not directly trained in those area.

However, this particular sb which is directly related to what I am studying (the position requires specialize knowledge) simply refuse to shortlist me. This is also the case for one of my friend who is expecting a first class hons as well. On the other hand, some of the second upper from my cohort are getting shortlisted.

So im suspecting the sb is too poor to hire fch. Could this really be the case? Or are there any other criterias that HR look at apart from academic qualification, internship exp and competitions? I don't think CCA is a factor as the HR manager told me they are not important since they are looking for people with the technical skills.
No there is no such thing as having no money to hire FCH. Think logically please - what is the difference in salary between a FCH and someone who is 2nd upper? No difference or 100 - 300 difference in basic only. You're telling me they can't afford that difference of few hundred?

It's either they have headcount freeze entirely, and therefore need to justify very hard to hire new staff. That being said, there could be better candidates than you, hence you're not shortlisted. Civil service looks at your academic history, from Secondary all the way to University. Perhaps those shortlisted had a far more outstanding Secondary - JC results (including CCAs) than you. Pedigree stock in short.
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