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Old 29-05-2020, 03:08 PM
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Hi, different poster here but I am considering between MAS and ESG, which is better to start my career? I understand that they are very different, but still fulfilling the public service calling. MAS deals with financial institutions while ESG deals with SMEs and could be said to be more ''client-facing'', front office and entrepreneurial. Also the average age is younger than MAS. However, MAS is prestigious but seems very bureaucratic.

Any insights as to the progression? Pay wise MAS is higher by about 15%

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Are you referring to the graduate program for both organisations? I thought positions for both have closed alrdy? Anyway MAS & EDB are much better places to start your career in terms of experience and pay

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not too low actually. just that it makes everyone thinks MAS pays higher than the others at the same pay grade.

govtech did that also. usually is to push the basic pay higher to attract talent from private sector
Quite bad lah.. basically playing with numbers. otherwise no one would join also..

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Hi, different poster here but I am considering between MAS and ESG, which is better to start my career? I understand that they are very different, but still fulfilling the public service calling. MAS deals with financial institutions while ESG deals with SMEs and could be said to be more ''client-facing'', front office and entrepreneurial. Also the average age is younger than MAS. However, MAS is prestigious but seems very bureaucratic.

Any insights as to the progression? Pay wise MAS is higher by about 15%

Local uni fresh grad, male NS
Assuming with offers on the table from both, MAS option for a start is a no-brainer i think.

If its just for considerations, do always explore both options and more. E.g. you might prefer ESG but be ready to be rejected or not being shortlisted. Same applies to MAS.

Progression is all in your hands, depending on your smarts and performance. MAS salary is seen as higher cause of the way its structured.

Hope these info helps.

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Assuming with offers on the table from both, MAS option for a start is a no-brainer i think.

If its just for considerations, do always explore both options and more. E.g. you might prefer ESG but be ready to be rejected or not being shortlisted. Same applies to MAS.

Progression is all in your hands, depending on your smarts and performance. MAS salary is seen as higher cause of the way its structured.

Hope these info helps.
Hmmm heard that altho MAS does not have 13th month etc, they have group bonus & personal performance bonus which pegs to local banks structure. Base pay is also high compared to other govt organisations. ESG's culture & progression is a problem, otherwise work is more fun
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Hmmm heard that altho MAS does not have 13th month etc, they have group bonus & personal performance bonus which pegs to local banks structure. Base pay is also high compared to other govt organisations. ESG's culture & progression is a problem, otherwise work is more fun
aws is merged to based pay.

do you know their annual package for avg performer? if so, i can share with you if the other min/sb offers similar package
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Are you referring to the graduate program for both organisations? I thought positions for both have closed alrdy? Anyway MAS & EDB are much better places to start your career in terms of experience and pay
MAS closed last month, but I just received ESG offer this week.

Thanks for your input!
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Hahah ok so Iím not alone with that thinking. Maybe heís referring to total comp looks high due to 16mths (eg) but base is Low?
i think he mean the other way.

basic looks high but total comp is lower compare to the other agencies.

-> because mas paid aws every mth
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Hi Gurus here,

I'm a local fresh grad. 25 this year, male with NS. economics degree 2nd upper.

just got offered by msf,

gross: $3560
grade: MX13
2 years contract

Is this a reasonable offer? Is there any room for negotiation (to 3800)?
Is it normal for fresh grads to get 2 year contracts, and not perm positions? Or is it just because of the covid situation?

Thanks!
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Quite bad lah.. basically playing with numbers. otherwise no one would join also..
actually ok. assuming MAS and another agency offer the same annual package but in MAS you get the money first (pay u more every month, lesser bonus).

its always to get the money first isn't it? you nvr know what will happen to economics or your performance


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i think he mean the other way.

basic looks high but total comp is lower compare to the other agencies.

-> because mas paid aws every mth
Lol i'm pretty sure MAS total comp is one of the highest in the civil/public service...
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