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Old 19-03-2013, 04:06 PM
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Hi everyone, I am wondering would a gpa 2.7 like me w working experiences is able to get a post in the ministry?
Ministry as a MSO shld be ok... depends on how u sell urself to the interviewers... not sure tough if executives level but require just a diploma is easy tough...

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Ministry as a MSO shld be ok... depends on how u sell urself to the interviewers... not sure tough if executives level but require just a diploma is easy tough...
MSO is for diploma level right. So like I have said...I think they might give you diploma job scope but pay slightly higher than diploma since you are degree holder.

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Ya mso is is diploma.. have seen people with recognised private degree got executive or senior post in ministry...



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What is the salary range for MX13, MX12, MX11?
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I got promoted from MX12 to 11 in 2012 (from stat board, but we use the same MX scale). The promotion increment was $250 and my VMI was $351.
wat does the V in the VMI stand for?? wat merit increment?? variable?

wat is your last drawn pay at MX12 when you get promoted to MX11??

I wan to calculate the % promotion increment and % merit increment.

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hi pal, i think you are stuck in an unenviable situation which is not uncommon in the civil service, speaking from my experience. seldom will low performing personnel, regardless of level, would be asked to leave; usually that happens due to gross misconduct.

if i were in your situation, i would probably think how to handle the boss better since now i know his/her pattern, e.g. respond/ get answers before it is required from your boss. if you have not tried, it may help to talk directly to your boss about what is bothering you, in terms of being micro-managed and be allowed to improve your productivity. let him/her know how you can perform better if you are being more empowered. however, be tactful during the conversation and dont make your boss feel that you are being insubordinate.

i'm sure your boss also reports to his/her boss. thus, if you have chance to feedback to someone of a higher seniority than your boss, i would recommend to feedback your concerns in a polite manner. this should be considered if there are no improvements following your talk with your boss.

you can also request for internal postings, but i would think that as a last resort.
take it easy, think carefully before making any rash decisions
The most infuriating was that s/he doesnt talk about quality of work or work deliverables during work appraisal, but talk about personal attributes which s/he never said before and wanted to include in the report. And these negative feedback about me not informing him to get concurrence or not sensitive to people were groundless because I did send him email updates and check with others. Unfortunately, due to my boss's work rate, s/he was embarrassed sometimes because s/he doesnt read emails promptly and after I've updated everyone, including the big boss, s/he would send another email to update everyone, which sometimes contain incomplete/wrong information.

I feedback to higher management, who said that my boss was on one month leave and so they directed me to do work. In fact, the nature of my work, my boss's boss direct me more work as my work involve inter-divisions. In fact, for some of my suggestions, if I were to clear with my boss, s/he would not be able to contribute much due to lack of experience and expertise in my area. In addition, as my work involve inter-divisions, the big boss often ask me to collate stuff/views urgently, and I notice that the big boss does not even cc my direct boss. I wonder whether my big boss thinks my boss's views are not important.

I was thinking is it because my boss is unable to take credit for my work, that is why my boss is now admonishing me.
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wat does the V in the VMI stand for?? wat merit increment?? variable?

wat is your last drawn pay at MX12 when you get promoted to MX11??

I wan to calculate the % promotion increment and % merit increment.

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Last drawn was $44XX. V stands for variable.
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wat does the V in the VMI stand for?? wat merit increment?? variable?

wat is your last drawn pay at MX12 when you get promoted to MX11??

I wan to calculate the % promotion increment and % merit increment.

Thank u
dun bother calculating the %

it's a FIXED quantum on a scale

it's never based on % unless u r talking abt market adjustment like the one done last yr for all civil servants

so if u r on the higher end of ur salary range ur % increment will actually be lower than ur colleague on the lower end of the scale wif the same performance grade
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Taking minutes entails not only noting the main discussion points that have taken place, but also understanding its essence, significance and even intricacies. Do you know what kind of meetings necessitates minutes taking and the people who sit in it? And do you know who may read the minutes of the meeting? If you really think it is a no brainer, you can't be further away from the truth. It requires a very sharp mind to discern the facts from the unimportant stuff. And good command of English is only one of the many prerequisites of good minutes writing.
very true. i have worked in GLCs and MNCs before. many GLCs work like quasi stat boards since most of the mgmt were from the AO service before they were privatized and hence think in that way. in GLCs uni grads do the minuting but in MNCs the secretary / coordinators etc do the minuting. the audience whom the minutes get circulated too plays a part too.
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dun bother calculating the %

it's a FIXED quantum on a scale

it's never based on % unless u r talking abt market adjustment like the one done last yr for all civil servants

so if u r on the higher end of ur salary range ur % increment will actually be lower than ur colleague on the lower end of the scale wif the same performance grade
SO DOES IT MEAN THAT:

Let say 2 guy at MX12 both are "C" grader, both are to be promoted to MX11 and also have their VMI.

Mr A, MX12, $6000 basic, 12 years exp
Mr B, MX12, $4400 basic, 5 years exp

Can I say that, since both are "C" grader, both of them will receive the same promotion increment of $250 & same VMI of $351, since you mention the increment is of "Fix quantum" not base on %.

Thus Mr A will get 6000+250+351 = $6601 at MX11,
and Mr B will get 4400+250+351 = $5001 at MX11

Am I correct??
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And just to add on,

Can I say that for all

MX13
the promotion and MI fix quantum for (A grade>B grade>C grade)

MX12
the promotion and MI fix quantum for (A grade>B grade>C grade)

MX11
the promotion and MI fix quantum for (A grade>B grade>C grade) and so on...

Also the (A grade quantum for MX11) > (A grade quantum for MX12) > (A grade quantum for MX13)....and so on..



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