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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why will paycut? My TC upped 100% lmao

Means you were underpaid in private, since govt is well known for their restrictive salary bands. If you're from finance, tech, MNCs, you're definitely taking a paycut to join at an equivalent grade.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Very informative. I find it hard to pick up soft skills. Do you have any recommendations how to do it outside work? Ty

Happy new year!

Poster from earlier. PSD has this mentorship programme, sign up for it but YMMV - no guarantee it works. I had a PSC OMS Ivy League tier US university to PSLP (Sectoral) high flier for a mentor in my first agency's mentorship programme (not PSD's one), but he was pretty useless and advised me to be patient for promotions, saying that people generally only get differentiated at 35 years old.
[Side note: Easy for him to say, since promotions have always gone quickly for him with his high CEP from PSC OMS and then PSLP (Sectoral). For farmers, it's far easier for CEP to rise when younger: If management and HR were given a choice between i) bumping up your CEP at 35 years old (and risking themselves by indirectly admitting that they made mistakes in gauging your CEP for the past decade) or ii) taking the easy way out by leaving your CEP as it is (and risking you leave the agency), which one would you think they would choose? Never wait. If you are worth it, you are worth it now, not years later, because it's far more difficult to move when older.]

Apart from the PSD mentorship programme, you could try other "CCAs" like clubs, societies, volunteering, etc. However, while this would be useful for certain soft skills like communication and teamwork, it may not help for others like strategic planning and managing high-level stakeholders. Best is still apply for the boss, not the job - I actually heard about my current boss from a friend before I applied.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Happy new year!

Poster from earlier. PSD has this mentorship programme, sign up for it but YMMV - no guarantee it works. I had a PSC OMS Ivy League tier US university to PSLP (Sectoral) high flier for a mentor in my first agency's mentorship programme (not PSD's one), but he was pretty useless and advised me to be patient for promotions, saying that people generally only get differentiated at 35 years old.
[Side note: Easy for him to say, since promotions have always gone quickly for him with his high CEP from PSC OMS and then PSLP (Sectoral). For farmers, it's far easier for CEP to rise when younger: If management and HR were given a choice between i) bumping up your CEP at 35 years old (and risking themselves by indirectly admitting that they made mistakes in gauging your CEP for the past decade) or ii) taking the easy way out by leaving your CEP as it is (and risking you leave the agency), which one would you think they would choose? Never wait. If you are worth it, you are worth it now, not years later, because it's far more difficult to move when older.]

Apart from the PSD mentorship programme, you could try other "CCAs" like clubs, societies, volunteering, etc. However, while this would be useful for certain soft skills like communication and teamwork, it may not help for others like strategic planning and managing high-level stakeholders. Best is still apply for the boss, not the job - I actually heard about my current boss from a friend before I applied.

Thank you bro but am not from CS haha, hence want to see how I can’t pick up outside of work.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

write more, speak more.

Right, but nobody in my circle speaks England

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Happy new year!

Poster from earlier. PSD has this mentorship programme, sign up for it but YMMV - no guarantee it works. I had a PSC OMS Ivy League tier US university to PSLP (Sectoral) high flier for a mentor in my first agency's mentorship programme (not PSD's one), but he was pretty useless and advised me to be patient for promotions, saying that people generally only get differentiated at 35 years old.
[Side note: Easy for him to say, since promotions have always gone quickly for him with his high CEP from PSC OMS and then PSLP (Sectoral). For farmers, it's far easier for CEP to rise when younger: If management and HR were given a choice between i) bumping up your CEP at 35 years old (and risking themselves by indirectly admitting that they made mistakes in gauging your CEP for the past decade) or ii) taking the easy way out by leaving your CEP as it is (and risking you leave the agency), which one would you think they would choose? Never wait. If you are worth it, you are worth it now, not years later, because it's far more difficult to move when older.]

Apart from the PSD mentorship programme, you could try other "CCAs" like clubs, societies, volunteering, etc. However, while this would be useful for certain soft skills like communication and teamwork, it may not help for others like strategic planning and managing high-level stakeholders. Best is still apply for the boss, not the job - I actually heard about my current boss from a friend before I applied.

thanks. can share what is your age and mx level now?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Happy new year!

Poster from earlier. PSD has this mentorship programme, sign up for it but YMMV - no guarantee it works. I had a PSC OMS Ivy League tier US university to PSLP (Sectoral) high flier for a mentor in my first agency's mentorship programme (not PSD's one), but he was pretty useless and advised me to be patient for promotions, saying that people generally only get differentiated at 35 years old.
[Side note: Easy for him to say, since promotions have always gone quickly for him with his high CEP from PSC OMS and then PSLP (Sectoral). For farmers, it's far easier for CEP to rise when younger: If management and HR were given a choice between i) bumping up your CEP at 35 years old (and risking themselves by indirectly admitting that they made mistakes in gauging your CEP for the past decade) or ii) taking the easy way out by leaving your CEP as it is (and risking you leave the agency), which one would you think they would choose? Never wait. If you are worth it, you are worth it now, not years later, because it's far more difficult to move when older.]

Apart from the PSD mentorship programme, you could try other "CCAs" like clubs, societies, volunteering, etc. However, while this would be useful for certain soft skills like communication and teamwork, it may not help for others like strategic planning and managing high-level stakeholders. Best is still apply for the boss, not the job - I actually heard about my current boss from a friend before I applied.

thanks. can share what is ur age and current mx lvl?

In the tech world but wanted to check in on government / CS salaries —
What would the equivalent range (or level) be for ~$230K SGD total compensation?

Originally Posted by omarnasiri

In the tech world but wanted to check in on government / CS salaries —
What would the equivalent range (or level) be for ~$230K SGD total compensation?

230K, I bet only mnistry?

Originally Posted by omarnasiri

In the tech world but wanted to check in on government / CS salaries —
What would the equivalent range (or level) be for ~$230K SGD total compensation?

How many yrs of experience and what post are you holding now? To match the pay package, likely have to be in senior mgmt role.

Originally Posted by omarnasiri

In the tech world but wanted to check in on government / CS salaries —
What would the equivalent range (or level) be for ~$230K SGD total compensation?

That is probably director level which is reserved for scholars.