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Old 24-05-2019, 10:58 PM
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Is this hearsay or written anywhere on the intranet? How can they decide CEP based on education qualifications? FYI I have UOL Biz 2nd upper.
If they can peg starting salaries for fresh graduate differently, i don't see how CEP has to be the same. In fact, the increase salary to the next range is bigger for you than a 2:1 NUS grad who started possible a few hundred dollars more.

If not, what do you determined your CEP - the 20-45 mins conversation you have before you start work? I think after all interviews, most people gets set on the default CEP based on a benchmark based on their background, and reviewed periodically.

Maybe the others in your department are better then that why the deserved to be promoted before you.

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May I know what is CEP?

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May I know what is CEP?
Current Estimated Potential

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Hi, iím a grad to be in July, and I just finished an interview at a stat board last week and recently received a call to ask if i have any academic achievements or other achievements at uni - i didnít mention any of those during my interview. Do they matter on whether i get the job or not?
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Oral Reply in Parliament by DPM Teo to a question on merging grad and non-grad tracks:

At the entry level, officers are paid based on their assigned job responsibilities and demonstrated qualities, which include leadership and relevant experience. Where an officer does not have relevant work experience, in particular for those just entering the workforce, their performance in their educational institutions, which includes both academic and non-academic accomplishments will be taken into consideration as a proxy.

Once an officer is on the job, it is performance and readiness for bigger job responsibilities that matter. A non-graduate who has demonstrated the same qualities as a graduate will be given the same development and advancement opportunities.

s://.psd.gov.sg/press-room/parliamentary-replies/oral-reply-to-parliamentary-question-on-civil-service-graduate-and-non-graduate-career-tracks-1
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Does a SIM degree lower one's CEP from the start? I'm from a ministry, currently MX12 for more than 5 plus years. Gotten C+ C C B B but show how I'm always passed over for promotion. My peers from NUS/NTU with similar or worse performance grades are promoted already.. I tried to ask my RO and he said its partly due to lower CEP I had when I started.. Is due to my degree?
i dont think is CEP. It is likely due to your lower starting pay, hence, it takes longer for you to reach the pay range of MX11 even with more increment per year. but not to worry, the gap will close up and you will eventually overtake your peer if you consistently perform better than them.

just have to accept the fact that it takes much more for a private uni to move up the ladder compare to a local uni.
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Who knows ur CEP? HR, RO?
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i dont think is CEP. It is likely due to your lower starting pay, hence, it takes longer for you to reach the pay range of MX11 even with more increment per year. but not to worry, the gap will close up and you will eventually overtake your peer if you consistently perform better than them.

just have to accept the fact that it takes much more for a private uni to move up the ladder compare to a local uni.
Just to share my own experience also. I recently did a recruitment for my team in a SB. the position offered was deputy manager / manager, depends on the profile of the candidate. note : dm or m is decide by HR, not me or my boss

ironically, interesting fact i found out is HR will first look at the candidate last drawn pay, apply some formula and work out the offer.

eg. the salary work out to be 6k, HR will see the profile of this candidate,
if is from private uni, 6k will be pegged to Manager (due to lower starting pay in range)
if is from local uni, 6k will be pegged to deputy manager (due to mid starting pay in range)

what i want to say is no matter what, your salary will be very largely based on your last drawn for exp candidate while the eventual position offered will then be reverse engineer to the appropriate grade based on your profile
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If they can peg starting salaries for fresh graduate differently, i don't see how CEP has to be the same. In fact, the increase salary to the next range is bigger for you than a 2:1 NUS grad who started possible a few hundred dollars more.

If not, what do you determined your CEP - the 20-45 mins conversation you have before you start work? I think after all interviews, most people gets set on the default CEP based on a benchmark based on their background, and reviewed periodically.

Maybe the others in your department are better then that why the deserved to be promoted before you.
Just as how a FCH person will have a higher CEP than someone with 2:1


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Does a SIM degree lower one's CEP from the start? I'm from a ministry, currently MX12 for more than 5 plus years. Gotten C+ C C B B but show how I'm always passed over for promotion. My peers from NUS/NTU with similar or worse performance grades are promoted already.. I tried to ask my RO and he said its partly due to lower CEP I had when I started.. Is due to my degree?
Jialat lor. High chance your CEP is only at mx11..

Is your current RO the RO for your first year as well?

First year is the most impt year as your RO will give an estimated of your CEP.

Of course they say CEP can be reviewed and adjust but it's hard. Example if your RO evaluates you to be only mx11 potential, it needs serious justification to change your CEP to example mx10. Scholars get promote fast because usually their CEP is at mx 8 or 9.
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