Civil/Public Sector - Ministry/Stat Boards employees knowledge needed!

If MTI is easier to get in and they pay better, why would ppl still apply EDB smh. Ppl would rather work in a ministry than a Stat Board. Sounds pretty unrealistic to me.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

EDB is definitely harder to get in my opinion. EDB look at the holistic development of the candidate, while MTI just merely look at your academic credential. EDB's interview is much tougher than MTI.

But MTI pays much better than EDB. In fact MTI is one of the top 3 better paying civil service job. I was offered about 4.5K as a fresh grad to join MTI 3 years ago. How ridiculous high is that for a fresh grad with no work exp? ( I have only one internship)

Source: I was rejected by EDB, but luckily accepted into MTI.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If MTI is easier to get in and they pay better, why would ppl still apply EDB smh. Ppl would rather work in a ministry than a Stat Board. Sounds pretty unrealistic to me.

That's bcos the there is only one department in the entire MTI (in fact, the entire civil/public service) that is under the economist scheme. And not everyone is eligible to apply for the scheme as it requires a good hons in economics at the very least.

Btw 4.5k is the starting pay for second upper for those under the ES scheme now. First class is around 4.8-4.9k

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, for a non-scholar local uni grad, will I ever reach ES6?
And what are the chances that they will not convert me to perm or renew my contract after 2 years?
Will I be promote to ES7 automatically after a certain period of time? if yes, how long?

Hi, it depends on your CEP. It is a bit difficult for me to advise.
I would need more information.

E.g: Class of honours (2.1 vs 1st class)
Intention to pursue to master in economics?


Yes. ES7 is almost automatically if you do not screw up.

My advice is to brush up on your writing and presentation skills as much as you can , especially your writing skills.

Good luck

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, it depends on your CEP. It is a bit difficult for me to advise.
I would need more information.

E.g: Class of honours (2.1 vs 1st class)
Intention to pursue to master in economics?


Yes. ES7 is almost automatically if you do not screw up.

My advice is to brush up on your writing and presentation skills as much as you can , especially your writing skills.

Good luck

Thanks for the reply.
I will work on those 2 areas as you advised

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What is Div 1 Div 2? Can someone explain... i frm pte sector.. thinking of switching to gov sector.

Degree = Div1
Diploma = Div2

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If MTI is easier to get in and they pay better, why would ppl still apply EDB smh. Ppl would rather work in a ministry than a Stat Board. Sounds pretty unrealistic to me.

Because in some sense, your CV looks better if you come from EDB than if you were to come from MTI. It is well known that EDB is a place where they groom scholars. Doesn't hurt that the role of EDB allows you to interact with all those big MNCs overseas. Very easy to network and jump when opportunity arises. That's why people clamour to go there.

I can imagine that it sux if u're not a scholar and u're working there... looks like promotion wouldn't come to a non-scholar at all given the number of more eligible people in the department rather than u.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Because in some sense, your CV looks better if you come from EDB than if you were to come from MTI. It is well known that EDB is a place where they groom scholars. Doesn't hurt that the role of EDB allows you to interact with all those big MNCs overseas. Very easy to network and jump when opportunity arises. That's why people clamour to go there.

Heard the gov is going to combine the graduates and non-grad scheme (diploma) this year. Can someone confirm this? And will people in the current MSO scheme remain or will they be converted as well?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Heard the gov is going to combine the graduates and non-grad scheme (diploma) this year. Can someone confirm this? And will people in the current MSO scheme remain or will they be converted as well?

there are not much information available yet. but common sense tells me that the existing mso will obviously be converted.. Otherwise, ppl are just going to mass quit and join again.

and even tho deg and dip holder will be under the same scheme on paper, whether a dip holder will be given the same opportunities is another story. perhaps it will take a dip holder 4 years or more to catch up with a fresh deg holder. CEP is another issue.

but of cos, the civil service will need some poster boy to tell the public that the combined scheme is working... so, if u r one of the lucky few selected to be the poster boy then good for u.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Because in some sense, your CV looks better if you come from EDB than if you were to come from MTI. It is well known that EDB is a place where they groom scholars. Doesn't hurt that the role of EDB allows you to interact with all those big MNCs overseas. Very easy to network and jump when opportunity arises. That's why people clamour to go there.

What is it like working in edb for non-grads? I went to their career portal & there are many bachelors position available but only few vacancies for diploma positions. Any non-grads working there to give some insight on working life in there??